I need to qualify my statement... "Visually match" is large term. The extent to which a MacbookPro can be visually matched to a NEC PA Series display is a question of "which part of color space". It's possible to arrive at a convincing match on, say, skintones, or foliage, or blue skys or grays or other useful tone area. But that's a "mutually exclusive" proposition, in my view, even with the best tools available today. In my very, very humble opinion, it is hard to expect "simultaneous" visually matching across a wide range of tones because of the wide differences between the two kinds of displays. I mean, let's be realistic. / Roger -----Original Message----- From: Thomas Vanderlinden [mailto:tvanderlinden@mac.com] Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 5:26 PM To: Spinnaker Photo Imaging Center Cc: Roger Breton; colorsync-users@lists.apple.com; Jim Lennon Subject: Re: iMac Monitor calibration I don't understand--- -- - - - If we are saying here that we are unable to define a lowest-common-denominator, that both high end and mid-range monitors could be calibrated and profiled to, then I don't understand why not. (I also don't understand what you would want to do this. You would end up with two monitors with less display capacity than the cheaper one, if any part of the cheaper monitor's gamut exceeds that of the more expensive one. At best you're paying for something you're not using with the dumbed-down high end monitor.) If we are saying that there must be something wrong with our profiling equipment or technique if we can't make a mid-range monitor behave like an optimized high-end monitor, then I don't understand this conversation. - - - -- ---Tom Vanderlinden, 26 April 2013 On Apr 26, 2013, at 4:54 PM, Spinnaker Photo Imaging Center <spinnakerphotoimagingcenter@dnmillerphoto.com> wrote:
I would assume, academically speaking of course, the MacBook Pro 8,3 17inch non-glare displays could visually match the NEC PA 271i, sort of, according to Roger.
One issue is density. However, what is to be done with RG and B?
I would like more suggestions on this.
I have tried for years to have my MacBook Pro's 4,1 and my two 8,3's get close in color, RGB. I have never succeeded. Density, yes. I use a solid medium gray for background on all displays. When it comes to the colors, I quit. As I wrote, I have been doing this exercise for years…since 2008.
My fantasy would be the two types of displays could match. Who else has this fantasy?
Kind of reminds me of when ColorEyes Pro was available. What I misunderstood was ColorEyes Pro can not profile any monitor to match a high end NEC PA 271w. In my amusing way, I was relating this to an antenna tuner. The antenna tuner could tune bedsprings for transmission and reception. Oh well. I am always learning.
Thanks all.
Cheers
David
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On Apr 26, 2013, at 1:01 PM, Roger Breton <graxx@videotron.ca> wrote:
It is possible, to some extent, to visually match the iMac to the NEC. But this needs to be done iteratively, empirically. Colorimetry alone, i.e. same calibrated XYZ white point off the two displays, will not result in a visual match, sadly.
Not in my experience.
Interesting problem...
/ Roger
-----Original Message----- From: colorsync-users-bounces+graxx=videotron.ca@lists.apple.com [mailto:colorsync-users-bounces+graxx=videotron.ca@lists.apple.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lennon Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 11:31 AM To: colorsync-users@lists.apple.com Subject: Re: iMac Monitor calibration
On Thu, 25 Apr 2013 09:27:50 -0700 David Miller wrote:
Regarding the critical profiling of the new iMac display, it will never
every match the NEC display. It is just not built the way the independent NEC is.
Is it possible to use a current iMac with an NEC like the one being described (or a Lacie 526, like I have) where the iMac is simply a location for tools, etc. and only the other monitor is calibrated? Can an Eye One Display2 be used to calibrate the other monitor?
Thanks,
Jim
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