Hello Refik. I used Enfocus PitStop Pro and callas pdfToolbox. Both indicate the proper RGB ICC profile embedded with the imported image. I also succeeded to export it with the latter, which is impossible with Acrobat Pro, so far. Because I only obtain the ICC profile form the PDF output intent while I obtain both with Callas. This file has been made from a joboption I gave to our external agency in which no color conversion is requested. The only CMYK information relies in the Output Intent profile Name and the Output Condition Name to perform proper transformation later in our prepress server. The truth lies elsewhere. Best. Axel From: Refik Telhan <rtelhan@icloud.com> Date: Monday 16 August 2021 at 14:45 To: Axel ROBERT <axel.robert@ubisoft.com>, "colorsync-users@lists.apple.com" <colorsync-users@lists.apple.com> Subject: Re: Adobe Acrobat | Extracting files and norm ICC profiles. Dear Axel, Can you check what each image has been tagged with before exporting them to Photoshop from PDF? You can put "Output Preview" into "Object Inspector" Preview mode (instead of its default Separation Preview mode) and click on each image to see the color mode as well as the tagged profile. As a PDF/X-4 file is being exported, you either choose to do no color conversion or to convert to a destination profile which also becomes the Output Intent. When you choose to have no color conversion, the image files retain their original color mode and profile (if they have been already tagged before they are placed in InDesign). Just grab a couple of RGB images each tagged with a different ICC profile. Place them in an InDesign file and export the page as a PDF/X-4 file by choosing "No Color Conversion" with any CMYK profile chosen as the Output intent, say ISO Coated v2 (ECI). When you check the images with the "Object Inspector" tool provided by the "Output Preview" pane, you will see that all images are in their original color mode tagged with the original RGB profile. When you export the page to PDF/X-4 by choosing "Convert to Destination", you will see that your images have all become untagged CMYK files. When individually exported to Photoshop, they will open as untagged CMYK files. But you know what the CMYK profile is; it is the Output Intent. In the last scenario, when you place untagged RGB files in an InDesign document and export it as PDF/X-4, the image files become tagged with the RGB working space set in the color settings of InDesign. So, what is happening at the end of the process when you export the image files from the PDF, pretty much depends on how the PDF/X-4 file has been exported to PDF from InDesign in the first place. Best Regards, Refik -------------------------------------------------------- Refik Telhan, EE B.Sc. Light and Color Management Consultancy UNIQ B2 Blok, Kat:5, Ic Kapi No: 605, Ofis No: TT02-AA23 Maslak Ayazaga Caddesi No:4, Huzur Mahallesi Sariyer, Istanbul, Turkey Mobile: + (90) (532) 426 21 87 -------------------------------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: Axel Robert via colorsync-users <colorsync-users@lists.apple.com<mailto:colorsync-users@lists.apple.com>> Reply-To: Axel Robert <axel.robert@ubisoft.com<mailto:axel.robert@ubisoft.com>> Date: 16 August 2021 Monday 13:05 To: "colorsync-users@lists.apple.com<mailto:colorsync-users@lists.apple.com>" <colorsync-users@lists.apple.com<mailto:colorsync-users@lists.apple.com>> Subject: Adobe Acrobat | Extracting files and norm ICC profiles. Dear community, I was wondering if someone already experienced this behavior or should explain what happens. I exported images from a pdf/x-4 with an RGB ICC profiles tagged on it. I used the internal export tool function to export them and then open in them in Photoshop. I expected to obtain the same one. But I have been surprised to see it wasn't the case. The image has been made with an sRGB ICC profile. And after having been exported, when I opened it in photoshop, it's an eciRGB ICC profile within. Does that mean Acrobat would overwrite the original with its own color management preferences? Thank you for your enlightening. Sincerely. Axel ROBERT | UBISOFT Senior Manager, Prepress & Quality 2-4 av Pasteur 94160 Saint Mandé France +33 (0)1 48 18 52 03 | +33 (0)6 63 91 99 07 _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. colorsync-users mailing list (colorsync-users@lists.apple.com<mailto:colorsync-users@lists.apple.com>) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/colorsync-users/rtelhan%40icloud.com This email sent to rtelhan@icloud.com<mailto:rtelhan@icloud.com>