Maybe I'm posting to the wrong list..... is this a professional forum where $5K and $9K pieces of equipment are considered part of the norm? If so, please excuse my post and please direct me to a place less professional in nature. I certainly didn't mean to offend anyone. All I am asking for, as a rank amateur at this, are answers to the questions I asked so I can complete a project I am working for on my own time and dime. I'm using an Imac and Epson 3880 and trying to do a reasearch project for a non profit. This equipment is primarily used for research, printing local posters etc. It's not a graphics factory. They have no color meter so instead of purchasing a $150 or so color meter, I rented a Colormuki because I heard it was great. And given that I am doing a freebie here, A $500 piece of equipment happens to be "ultra expensive" to me. I had no idea I was dealing with a forum that traffics in high end ($9k) gear. In the words of Steve Martin, "Excussse me" for the faux pas of calling the Colormuki "ultra expensive". I wish more time was spent on helping me then deriding my choice of words. Anyway I really need help. As I said, I'm using an IMAC DESKTOP OS X 10.7 with its 27 inch (i think) screen an Epson 3880 printer Adobe Lightroom 4 I downloaded and used the latest ColorMunki software I did the screen calibration 2X. Both generating very similar results. Looks good. I then printed the color "swatches" as directed. let it dry and scanned it with the Colormunki repeated that per directions. It generated a second color "swatch" table which I scanned row by rwo and used the results to set a paper printer profile (I did this whole thing two times as well) With Epson printer control off , In soft proofing and in printing (with both the generated color profile and the Epson supplied paper profile) I get the same terrible results, high contrast, washed out prints. When I have the Epson printer control the process, the results are a lot better but still not right. I tried manually adjusting the colors, contrast, etc, but it was all hit and miss and never correct. So I really need help . I am a novice at this and don't understand things like "changing the path". This is alien territory for me I live in Los Angeles and I would be more than happy to pay someone to send time on the phone and help set this up for me. Many thanks in advance. Just trying to help out a worthy cause. PS. I can post scans if that would help. Scott Goldstein Los Angeles