Dear Marcello, This topic is also being discussed on the ECI-EN mailing list under the same thread. In his mail dated 09.06.2019, Mr. Karl Michael Meinecke, a bvdm expert from 1980 to 2017, has explained in detail how the Fogra 51 dataset has been prepared. The copyright information of "PSOcoated_v3.icc" says that it has been made by ECI using Heidelberger Druckmaschinen AG's ColorToolbox 17.0.0 with the following settings: # Printopen - Profile parameter setup # CMYK_PROFILE: "Y" TOTAL_DOT: "300" MAX_BLACK: "96" BLACK_LENGTH: "10" BLACK_WIDTH: "10" PRESERVE_COLORS: "0" SATURATION_DARKER_LIGHTER: "0" CONTRAST_DARKS: "N" COLOR_SATURATION: "0" GLOBAL_DARKER_LIGHTER: "0" GRAYAXIS_CORR: "N" AXIS_CORRECTION: "5" AUTO_MEASCORR: "Y" # Proof setting: # CONS_BRIGHTENERS: "N" LIGHTNESS_ADAPT: "N" PAPERWHITE_LVAL: "0.0" Best, Refik -------------------------------------------------------- Refik Telhan, EE B.Sc. Light and Color Management Consultancy Aydogdu Sokak 12A, Tarabya Mahallesi Sariyer, 34457, Istanbul, Turkey Mobile: + (90) (532) 426 21 87 -------------------------------------------------------- On 10.06.2019 16:08, "Marcelo Copetti" <marcelo@easycolor.com.br> wrote: Dear Refik Looks obvious that is an average of all measuments, correct? Only to have sure. Do you know what software package they used to it? Thank you Best regards Marcelo Copetti www.easycolor.com.br <.#NOP> E-mail: marcelo@easycolor.com.br Cel: 41 9 9941-1740 - Whatsapp Cel: 71 9 9683-6873 - Whatsapp ------ Mensagem original ------ De: "Refik Telhan via colorsync-users" <colorsync-users@lists.apple.com> Para: colorsync-users@lists.apple.com Enviado(s): 09/06/2019 23:30:12 Assunto: Re: Fogra 51 and 52 >Dear Roger, > >The following quotation is from Mr. Hanno Hoffstadt's mail dated 19.02.2019 which he had sent as part of the thread "[ECI-EN] Issues related with the switch from FOGRA39/47 to FOGRA51/52": > >"The original M1 measurement data for FOGRA51 (6 test prints, 6 printers, 4 papers; all measured by 4 devices - i1pro2, fd7, exact, spectrodens)..." > >Best, > >Refik > >-------------------------------------------------------- >Refik Telhan, EE B.Sc. > >Light and Color Management Consultancy > >Aydogdu Sokak 12A, Tarabya Mahallesi >Sariyer, 34457, Istanbul, Turkey > >Mobile: + (90) (532) 426 21 87 >-------------------------------------------------------- > > >On 09.06.2019 00:32, "colorsync-users on behalf of Roger Breton via colorsync-users" <colorsync-users-bounces+rtelhan=icloud.com@lists.apple.com on behalf of colorsync-users@lists.apple.com> wrote: > > Do we know what instrumentation was used to measure Fogra 51 and 52? > Just "M1"? > > > > Best / Roger > > _______________________________________________ > Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. > colorsync-users mailing list (colorsync-users@lists.apple.com) > Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: > https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/colorsync-users/rtelhan%40icloud.com > > This email sent to rtelhan@icloud.com > > > > _______________________________________________ >Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >colorsync-users mailing list (colorsync-users@lists.apple.com) >Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/colorsync-users/marcelo%40easycolor.... > >This email sent to marcelo@easycolor.com.br