When I was a drum scan operator I kept a few reference images on my desktop and had them open in Photoshop while I was working. I could simultaneously see the reference image with colors I deemed “ideal” as I color corrected new scans. This was very helpful at that time.
Ultimately color correction nerds train the brain and get crazy fast and intuitive about it. To the point where the monitor calibration doesn’t matter as much. After all we used to color correct on B&W monitors on the early drums scanners by the numbers. Learning the numbers is a whole other skill…
At that time Scitex taught us to keep in front of us a table of named CMYK / Lab values (neutrals, gold, silver, gems, skin tones, sky, grass, shadows, highlights, all with important variants) taken from the digital originals that resulted in good prints, for each type of paper / printer we are using. I do calibrate and profile everything, but still use these tables. Working by numbers à la Margulis brings the image into the ballpark very fast. On 12/6/22 12:51, Scott Martin via colorsync-users wrote:
Hey Lou!
"Train the Brain”
When I was a drum scan operator I kept a few reference images on my desktop and had them open in Photoshop while I was working. I could simultaneously see the reference image with colors I deemed “ideal” as I color corrected new scans. This was very helpful at that time.
You're right about taking a 2nd look at images. A 2nd round can be useful especially while training.
Ultimately color correction nerds train the brain and get crazy fast and intuitive about it. To the point where the monitor calibration doesn’t matter as much. After all we used to color correct on B&W monitors on the early drums scanners by the numbers. Learning the numbers is a whole other skill…
But as a side note, I’d say that NUBS are super keen on monitor calibration but the old pros often don’t pay as much attention these days. With the brain trained things work under the hood without a conscious awareness of it. It just takes 500,000 images to get there, lol.
Keep at it and have your reference images handy!
Scott Martin www.on-sight.com <http://www.on-sight.com/> Imaging Science for Art
On Dec 6, 2022, at 11:02 AM, waynebretl via colorsync-users <colorsync-users@lists.apple.com> wrote:
I don't think there's any perfect solution.Some practices that can help:1) Never make a one sided adjustment. Rock in the adjustment amount back and forth from too much to too little, gradually reducing to find the sweet spot. If necessary, make a few copies with a range of adjustment and review later.2) Use a different but similar type of image with adjustments that have remained looking good to you over time as an "anchor " for side by side comparison with your new image.As someone who worked in TV receiver design, video image evaluation, etcetera for 50 years, I can say for sure that there's no fixed answer to "too much or too little." Even with all variables controlled it's still a matter of taste, and influenced by peer opinons as well. The major TV manufacturers all developed individual styles of picture sharpness vs resolution vs smoothness of edges.Sent from my Galaxy -------- Original message --------From: Louis Dina via colorsync-users <colorsync-users@lists.apple.com> Date: 12/5/22 3:01 PM (GMT-07:00) To: colorsync-users@lists.apple.com Subject: Defeating Eye Adaptation I'm curious how others deal with "Eye Adaptation" when editing images. Thelonger we stare at the monitor, the more "normal" the image appears. Oureyes adjust and often fool us, at least they do me. It may be too bright,dark, contrasty, flat, over or undersaturated, etc. Sometimes I think theimage looks great, but when I come back after 5 minutes, obvious neededchanges scream out at me.So, what do you do to defeat eye adaptation?Thanks, Lou _______________________________________________Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored.colorsync-users mailing list (colorsync-users@lists.apple.com)Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription:https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/colorsync-users/waynebretl%40cox.net... email sent to waynebretl@cox.net _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. colorsync-users mailing list (colorsync-users@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/colorsync-users/scott%40on-sight.com
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