i1Pro2 - is there a ColorPicker replacement?
Hey, everyone! I just bought an i1pro2, replacing our old SpectroScan and ProfileMaker Pro. I was used to being able to take readings of all sorts of objects (not just charts) with the ColorPicker module and exporting spectral data, Lab colors, Photoshop palettes or a number of other formats with ColorPicker, a module in ProfileMaker Pro, with which I would imagine many of you would be fairly well acquainted. I'm looking for something that updates/replaces ColorPicker, and I've been a little let down with what comes with the i1pro2. I see that I can do something kinda like it by telling it to measure a chart, but I have to pre-define how many colors I'd like to measure and I have only one very basic export option for a text document of Lab colors. Not very wieldy. There is also Pantone's Color Manager which doesn't give Lab data at all. Pretty, but not what I'm looking for. There is also the option of running my new i1pro2 with ColorPicker itself, but I'm running out of computers running Mac OS 10.6 or earlier! Also, ColorPicker doesn't take advantage of the M0, M1 and M2 measurement modes and requires a dongle for saving. Is there a tool that does the exact same thing as ColorPicker but something I can run on Mac OS 10.7 or 10.8? Thanks, Bruce Jamieson
Bruce, you should let X-Rite know about your displeasure.....MANY OF US are rather upset that there's several tools like Measure Tool (spot measurement), Color Picker and Profiler Editor that are not available with i1Profiler. As far as what you're looking to do, you could use the "Measurement" function and just define your chart as 1x1. There's also the ColorPort Utility (free) that will let you freely define a chart and allow you to look at the measurement colorimetry/densitometry without needing to save/export the data. It supports the i1Pro2 but only in "legacy" mode (M0, M2 only). Terry On Jun 5, 2013, at 5:15 PM, Bruce Andrew Jamieson <flapjack@brucebomb.com> wrote:
Hey, everyone!
I just bought an i1pro2, replacing our old SpectroScan and ProfileMaker Pro. I was used to being able to take readings of all sorts of objects (not just charts) with the ColorPicker module and exporting spectral data, Lab colors, Photoshop palettes or a number of other formats with ColorPicker, a module in ProfileMaker Pro, with which I would imagine many of you would be fairly well acquainted.
I'm looking for something that updates/replaces ColorPicker, and I've been a little let down with what comes with the i1pro2. I see that I can do something kinda like it by telling it to measure a chart, but I have to pre-define how many colors I'd like to measure and I have only one very basic export option for a text document of Lab colors. Not very wieldy.
There is also Pantone's Color Manager which doesn't give Lab data at all. Pretty, but not what I'm looking for.
There is also the option of running my new i1pro2 with ColorPicker itself, but I'm running out of computers running Mac OS 10.6 or earlier! Also, ColorPicker doesn't take advantage of the M0, M1 and M2 measurement modes and requires a dongle for saving.
Is there a tool that does the exact same thing as ColorPicker but something I can run on Mac OS 10.7 or 10.8?
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On Jun 5, 2013, at 2:36 PM, Terence Wyse <wyseconsul@mac.com> wrote:
As far as what you're looking to do, you could use the "Measurement" function and just define your chart as 1x1. There's also the ColorPort Utility (free) that will let you freely define a chart and allow you to look at the measurement colorimetry/densitometry without needing to save/export the data. It supports the i1Pro2 but only in "legacy" mode (M0, M2 only).
Also, if you're not afraid of the command line, ArgyllCMS includes a ``spotread'' utility that will not only print the values but plot a chart of the spectral response. Works great. Cheers, b&
lucky this came up, I'd just sent an offlist message to danny yesterday, which he seems to have missed. I did a review some time ago of the simple abilities of PatchTool http://photofeedback.blogspot.fr/search?q=patchtool Edmund On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 11:41 PM, Ben Goren <ben@trumpetpower.com> wrote:
On Jun 5, 2013, at 2:36 PM, Terence Wyse <wyseconsul@mac.com> wrote:
As far as what you're looking to do, you could use the "Measurement" function and just define your chart as 1x1. There's also the ColorPort Utility (free) that will let you freely define a chart and allow you to look at the measurement colorimetry/densitometry without needing to save/export the data. It supports the i1Pro2 but only in "legacy" mode (M0, M2 only).
Also, if you're not afraid of the command line, ArgyllCMS includes a ``spotread'' utility that will not only print the values but plot a chart of the spectral response. Works great.
Cheers,
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Ben, I've been using Argyll and DispCal here and there but I didn't know Argyll had a spot color reading utility. I'll be sure to spend some time on it. Thanks! -Bruce On Jun 5, 2013, at 5:41 PM, Ben Goren <ben@trumpetpower.com> wrote:
On Jun 5, 2013, at 2:36 PM, Terence Wyse <wyseconsul@mac.com> wrote:
As far as what you're looking to do, you could use the "Measurement" function and just define your chart as 1x1. There's also the ColorPort Utility (free) that will let you freely define a chart and allow you to look at the measurement colorimetry/densitometry without needing to save/export the data. It supports the i1Pro2 but only in "legacy" mode (M0, M2 only).
Also, if you're not afraid of the command line, ArgyllCMS includes a ``spotread'' utility that will not only print the values but plot a chart of the spectral response. Works great.
Cheers,
b&
Terry, I most definitely did let X-Rite know I was looking for such a utility. It seems so incongruous that they put in the time to put together such a fine specimen in the i1pro2 but the i1profiler software seems like it's missing things, or at times feels glitchy, etc. It's not bad, but when I'm missing things that I used to have, it just feels frustrating. Thanks for the suggestions! -Bruce On Jun 5, 2013, at 5:36 PM, Terence Wyse <wyseconsul@mac.com> wrote:
Bruce, you should let X-Rite know about your displeasure.....MANY OF US are rather upset that there's several tools like Measure Tool (spot measurement), Color Picker and Profiler Editor that are not available with i1Profiler.
As far as what you're looking to do, you could use the "Measurement" function and just define your chart as 1x1. There's also the ColorPort Utility (free) that will let you freely define a chart and allow you to look at the measurement colorimetry/densitometry without needing to save/export the data. It supports the i1Pro2 but only in "legacy" mode (M0, M2 only).
Terry
On Jun 5, 2013, at 5:15 PM, Bruce Andrew Jamieson <flapjack@brucebomb.com> wrote:
Hey, everyone!
I just bought an i1pro2, replacing our old SpectroScan and ProfileMaker Pro. I was used to being able to take readings of all sorts of objects (not just charts) with the ColorPicker module and exporting spectral data, Lab colors, Photoshop palettes or a number of other formats with ColorPicker, a module in ProfileMaker Pro, with which I would imagine many of you would be fairly well acquainted.
I'm looking for something that updates/replaces ColorPicker, and I've been a little let down with what comes with the i1pro2. I see that I can do something kinda like it by telling it to measure a chart, but I have to pre-define how many colors I'd like to measure and I have only one very basic export option for a text document of Lab colors. Not very wieldy.
There is also Pantone's Color Manager which doesn't give Lab data at all. Pretty, but not what I'm looking for.
There is also the option of running my new i1pro2 with ColorPicker itself, but I'm running out of computers running Mac OS 10.6 or earlier! Also, ColorPicker doesn't take advantage of the M0, M1 and M2 measurement modes and requires a dongle for saving.
Is there a tool that does the exact same thing as ColorPicker but something I can run on Mac OS 10.7 or 10.8?
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My experience has been that X-Rite makes absolutely awesome hardware...and adequate software. Really, it's somewhat analogous to the camera manufacturers which typically make wonderful cameras and adequate raw development and photo manipulation software. But that's okay because the hardware isn't tied to their software. If you're not afraid of the command line, you'll be hard pressed to find a better profiling package than Argyll CMS -- and it's free and very well supported to boot. If you don't care for the command line, there are many other alternatives, typically commercial, generally well worth the money, and whose developers are regular contributors to this list. Browse through the archives and you should be able to figure out who wrote what; pick from that list and you're unlikely to be unhappy. Cheers, b& On Jun 6, 2013, at 2:08 PM, Bruce Andrew Jamieson <flapjack@brucebomb.com> wrote:
Terry, I most definitely did let X-Rite know I was looking for such a utility. It seems so incongruous that they put in the time to put together such a fine specimen in the i1pro2 but the i1profiler software seems like it's missing things, or at times feels glitchy, etc. It's not bad, but when I'm missing things that I used to have, it just feels frustrating.
Thanks for the suggestions!
-Bruce
On Jun 5, 2013, at 5:36 PM, Terence Wyse <wyseconsul@mac.com> wrote:
Bruce, you should let X-Rite know about your displeasure.....MANY OF US are rather upset that there's several tools like Measure Tool (spot measurement), Color Picker and Profiler Editor that are not available with i1Profiler.
As far as what you're looking to do, you could use the "Measurement" function and just define your chart as 1x1. There's also the ColorPort Utility (free) that will let you freely define a chart and allow you to look at the measurement colorimetry/densitometry without needing to save/export the data. It supports the i1Pro2 but only in "legacy" mode (M0, M2 only).
Terry
On Jun 5, 2013, at 5:15 PM, Bruce Andrew Jamieson <flapjack@brucebomb.com> wrote:
Hey, everyone!
I just bought an i1pro2, replacing our old SpectroScan and ProfileMaker Pro. I was used to being able to take readings of all sorts of objects (not just charts) with the ColorPicker module and exporting spectral data, Lab colors, Photoshop palettes or a number of other formats with ColorPicker, a module in ProfileMaker Pro, with which I would imagine many of you would be fairly well acquainted.
I'm looking for something that updates/replaces ColorPicker, and I've been a little let down with what comes with the i1pro2. I see that I can do something kinda like it by telling it to measure a chart, but I have to pre-define how many colors I'd like to measure and I have only one very basic export option for a text document of Lab colors. Not very wieldy.
There is also Pantone's Color Manager which doesn't give Lab data at all. Pretty, but not what I'm looking for.
There is also the option of running my new i1pro2 with ColorPicker itself, but I'm running out of computers running Mac OS 10.6 or earlier! Also, ColorPicker doesn't take advantage of the M0, M1 and M2 measurement modes and requires a dongle for saving.
Is there a tool that does the exact same thing as ColorPicker but something I can run on Mac OS 10.7 or 10.8?
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Hello Bruce, For your specific requirements, you may want to have a look at PatchTool, in particular look for its Patch-Reader tool which can measure with or without a reference list, by defining a chart size, or in unconstrained mode, and which supports the i1Pro 2 M0, M1, and M2 modes. You can export in many data formats, including Adobe Swatch Exchange (.ase) format for use in Photoshop. You can contact me off-list for specific questions. Danny Pascale www.babelcolor.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bruce Andrew Jamieson" <flapjack@brucebomb.com> To: <Colorsync-users@lists.apple.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2013 5:15 PM Subject: i1Pro2 - is there a ColorPicker replacement?
Hey, everyone!
I just bought an i1pro2, replacing our old SpectroScan and ProfileMaker Pro. I was used to being able to take readings of all sorts of objects (not just charts) with the ColorPicker module and exporting spectral data, Lab colors, Photoshop palettes or a number of other formats with ColorPicker, a module in ProfileMaker Pro, with which I would imagine many of you would be fairly well acquainted.
I'm looking for something that updates/replaces ColorPicker, and I've been a little let down with what comes with the i1pro2. I see that I can do something kinda like it by telling it to measure a chart, but I have to pre-define how many colors I'd like to measure and I have only one very basic export option for a text document of Lab colors. Not very wieldy.
There is also Pantone's Color Manager which doesn't give Lab data at all. Pretty, but not what I'm looking for.
There is also the option of running my new i1pro2 with ColorPicker itself, but I'm running out of computers running Mac OS 10.6 or earlier! Also, ColorPicker doesn't take advantage of the M0, M1 and M2 measurement modes and requires a dongle for saving.
Is there a tool that does the exact same thing as ColorPicker but something I can run on Mac OS 10.7 or 10.8?
Thanks, Bruce Jamieson _______________________________________________
Hello Mr. Jamieson, Have you tried SpectraShop or BabelColor? Regards, Robin Myers On Jun 5, 2013, at 2:15 PM, Bruce Andrew Jamieson wrote:
Hey, everyone!
I just bought an i1pro2, replacing our old SpectroScan and ProfileMaker Pro. I was used to being able to take readings of all sorts of objects (not just charts) with the ColorPicker module and exporting spectral data, Lab colors, Photoshop palettes or a number of other formats with ColorPicker, a module in ProfileMaker Pro, with which I would imagine many of you would be fairly well acquainted.
I'm looking for something that updates/replaces ColorPicker, and I've been a little let down with what comes with the i1pro2. I see that I can do something kinda like it by telling it to measure a chart, but I have to pre-define how many colors I'd like to measure and I have only one very basic export option for a text document of Lab colors. Not very wieldy.
There is also Pantone's Color Manager which doesn't give Lab data at all. Pretty, but not what I'm looking for.
There is also the option of running my new i1pro2 with ColorPicker itself, but I'm running out of computers running Mac OS 10.6 or earlier! Also, ColorPicker doesn't take advantage of the M0, M1 and M2 measurement modes and requires a dongle for saving.
Is there a tool that does the exact same thing as ColorPicker but something I can run on Mac OS 10.7 or 10.8?
Thanks, Bruce Jamieson
Have you tried SpectraShop (rmimaging.com) or CT&A/Patch Tool (babelcolor.com)? Robin Myers On Jun 5, 2013, at 2:15 PM, Bruce Andrew Jamieson wrote:
Hey, everyone!
I just bought an i1pro2, replacing our old SpectroScan and ProfileMaker Pro. I was used to being able to take readings of all sorts of objects (not just charts) with the ColorPicker module and exporting spectral data, Lab colors, Photoshop palettes or a number of other formats with ColorPicker, a module in ProfileMaker Pro, with which I would imagine many of you would be fairly well acquainted.
I'm looking for something that updates/replaces ColorPicker, and I've been a little let down with what comes with the i1pro2. I see that I can do something kinda like it by telling it to measure a chart, but I have to pre-define how many colors I'd like to measure and I have only one very basic export option for a text document of Lab colors. Not very wieldy.
There is also Pantone's Color Manager which doesn't give Lab data at all. Pretty, but not what I'm looking for.
There is also the option of running my new i1pro2 with ColorPicker itself, but I'm running out of computers running Mac OS 10.6 or earlier! Also, ColorPicker doesn't take advantage of the M0, M1 and M2 measurement modes and requires a dongle for saving.
Is there a tool that does the exact same thing as ColorPicker but something I can run on Mac OS 10.7 or 10.8?
Thanks, Bruce Jamieson
Have you used ColorPort? The spot measurement data is pretty rich! Scott Martin On Jun 5, 2013, at 4:15 PM, Bruce Andrew Jamieson <flapjack@brucebomb.com> wrote:
Hey, everyone!
I just bought an i1pro2, replacing our old SpectroScan and ProfileMaker Pro. I was used to being able to take readings of all sorts of objects (not just charts) with the ColorPicker module and exporting spectral data, Lab colors, Photoshop palettes or a number of other formats with ColorPicker, a module in ProfileMaker Pro, with which I would imagine many of you would be fairly well acquainted.
I'm looking for something that updates/replaces ColorPicker, and I've been a little let down with what comes with the i1pro2. I see that I can do something kinda like it by telling it to measure a chart, but I have to pre-define how many colors I'd like to measure and I have only one very basic export option for a text document of Lab colors. Not very wieldy.
There is also Pantone's Color Manager which doesn't give Lab data at all. Pretty, but not what I'm looking for.
There is also the option of running my new i1pro2 with ColorPicker itself, but I'm running out of computers running Mac OS 10.6 or earlier! Also, ColorPicker doesn't take advantage of the M0, M1 and M2 measurement modes and requires a dongle for saving.
Is there a tool that does the exact same thing as ColorPicker but something I can run on Mac OS 10.7 or 10.8?
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