No, Martin is not picking the wrong rendering intent. I started noticing this as soon as I moved to Snow Leopard. Two things happened: Everything printed through CS3 started printing about a half stop dark, so I migrated to CS5 printing, which solved the dark printing, but added the scum dot. At first I thought I had mistakenly made a v4 profile, but I have only ever made v2 profiles. It's something that happened in the move to Snow Leopard. Making new profiles in i1Profiler solved the scum dot problem, but created new problems as well. Believe it or not, not every user out there is up to date, and if you use the new i1 profiles in CS3 and SL, you will get prints that are really dark - I'm talking ten stops or more dark. I wrote a detailed message to X-Rite about all of this and guess what? I never heard a damned thing back from them. Oh well. For the record, every person I know making prints on a Mac with the same setup and Gretag profiles has had the same issue. For a lot of applications, it's not really a big deal, but if you need to show the white as part of your image, you better remember to expand the canvas or print through the Adobe Color Print Utility, which does not have the problem. Peter Figen Peter Figen Photography 4943 McConnell Ave. Unit G Los Angeles, Ca. 90066 310-301-2509 studio 310-871-5656 cell www.peterfigen.com
On Jul 13, 2012, at 2:11 PM, PETER FIGEN wrote:
No, Martin is not picking the wrong rendering intent.
One has to wonder at times <g> Martin’s statement that the fault is PMP profiles and they all exhibit this is nonsense however. As I stated, I’ve built hundreds of profiles with that product, for a lot of customers using all kinds of printers, operating systems, drivers etc. His simplistic and incorrect statement implies pretty strongly this is something that is anything but a rare condition.
Oh well. For the record, every person I know making prints on a Mac with the same setup and Gretag profiles has had the same issue.
And for the record, every customer I built profiles for didn’t. I’m not suggesting there isn’t some combo of bug that causes this. I’m suggesting that it is/was rare and to suggest GretagMacbeth/X-rite produced a product that caused this in mass, and just ignored it, that it was solely their doing doesn’t wash. There have been so many historical issues printing on the Mac over the last 6-8 years it is hard to keep track of them. Our Windows friends don’t seem to suffer pointing to some responsibility with Apple. Andrew Rodney http://www.digitaldog.net/
Peter and / or Martin, If either of you could send directly to me "before" and "after" profiles made from the same data I would appreciate it. I'll try to find the time to compare the two and see the difference. If you could please label them clearly so I can tell which is "bad" and which is "good" it would help speed things along.. thanks Steve PS - I may have already asked one of you for such profiles. If I did and they got buried, I apologize.
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Andrew Rodney
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PETER FIGEN
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Steve Upton