Epson Spectroproofer Pulse
Hi, I believe the Epson SpectroProofer spectrophotometer is a Pulse device. Does anyone know why Epson is not using i1 technology? Thanks, Gary Scott Technology Support Landor Associates
Yes. i1 technology was licensed to HP to be used in their printers like Z series. Hp was first on the market to include spectro in their printers. Epson copied this but they could not get i1 so the only choice was inferior Pulse spectro. ------ Sent from Apple touch-screen device Best Regards, Derek Lambert
Hi,
I believe the Epson SpectroProofer spectrophotometer is a Pulse device. Does anyone know why Epson did not use i1 technology?
Derek, As an old time Pulse user who much preferred it back in the day to the old i1, who did several tests between my old Pulses and i1s and found their readings to be pretty much identical, and who was very disappointed also back in the day to see X-Rite drop the Pulse in favor of what I personally considered to be the much inferior i1, and who was finally very glad to see some of the much-missed features of the Pulse incorporated into the new i1 device... I'm curious in just what way you consider the Pulse is "inferior." Mike Adams Correct Color On Jun 25, 2014, at 8:23 PM, Derek Lambert wrote:
Yes. i1 technology was licensed to HP to be used in their printers like Z series. Hp was first on the market to include spectro in their printers. Epson copied this but they could not get i1 so the only choice was inferior Pulse spectro.
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Best Regards,
Derek Lambert
Hi,
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"I'm curious in just what way you consider the Pulse is "inferior."" As I recall, the pulse had a lower resolution than the i1 (20nm vs the i1's 10nm) and a shorter spectral range (400-700 vs i1s 380-730. Likely a negligible difference in most cases, but that would be one perceived drawback. On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 2:44 PM, G Mike Adams <typhoon@correctcolor.org> wrote:
Derek,
As an old time Pulse user who much preferred it back in the day to the old i1, who did several tests between my old Pulses and i1s and found their readings to be pretty much identical, and who was very disappointed also back in the day to see X-Rite drop the Pulse in favor of what I personally considered to be the much inferior i1, and who was finally very glad to see some of the much-missed features of the Pulse incorporated into the new i1 device...
I'm curious in just what way you consider the Pulse is "inferior."
Mike Adams Correct Color
On Jun 25, 2014, at 8:23 PM, Derek Lambert wrote:
Yes. i1 technology was licensed to HP to be used in their printers like Z series. Hp was first on the market to include spectro in their printers. Epson copied this but they could not get i1 so the only choice was inferior Pulse spectro.
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Best Regards,
Derek Lambert
Hi,
I believe the Epson SpectroProofer spectrophotometer is a Pulse device. Does anyone know why Epson did not use i1 technology?
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It’s 2014 and we still don’t have an un-tethered spectro like the Pulse…..I was a huge fan of the Pulse and considered it every bit the equal (or better) than the i1. The new i1Pro2 is nice…..but not even bluetooth capable? Terry On Jun 26, 2014, at 3:13 PM, Michael Eddington <meddington38@gmail.com> wrote:
"I'm curious in just what way you consider the Pulse is "inferior.""
As I recall, the pulse had a lower resolution than the i1 (20nm vs the i1's 10nm) and a shorter spectral range (400-700 vs i1s 380-730.
Likely a negligible difference in most cases, but that would be one perceived drawback.
On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 2:44 PM, G Mike Adams <typhoon@correctcolor.org> wrote:
Derek,
As an old time Pulse user who much preferred it back in the day to the old i1, who did several tests between my old Pulses and i1s and found their readings to be pretty much identical, and who was very disappointed also back in the day to see X-Rite drop the Pulse in favor of what I personally considered to be the much inferior i1, and who was finally very glad to see some of the much-missed features of the Pulse incorporated into the new i1 device...
I'm curious in just what way you consider the Pulse is "inferior."
Mike Adams Correct Color
On Jun 25, 2014, at 8:23 PM, Derek Lambert wrote:
Yes. i1 technology was licensed to HP to be used in their printers like Z series. Hp was first on the market to include spectro in their printers. Epson copied this but they could not get i1 so the only choice was inferior Pulse spectro.
------ Sent from Apple touch-screen device
Best Regards,
Derek Lambert
Hi,
I believe the Epson SpectroProofer spectrophotometer is a Pulse device. Does anyone know why Epson did not use i1 technology?
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Mike, I am sorry. I should be more specific. I do not consider pulse technology to be worst than i1. Actually pulse was able to operate without being attached to any computer. I was only reffering to my own usage. For me i1 pro or i1 pro 2 is much better than pulse as I can use it to scan charts automatically with io table. This is wat better than scan by hand even cordless. Of course there is iSis but with iO table you are not limited to thin media. ------ Sent from Apple touch-screen device Best Regards, Derek Lambert
On Jun 26, 2014, at 2:44 PM, G Mike Adams <typhoon@correctcolor.org> wrote:
Derek,
As an old time Pulse user who much preferred it back in the day to the old i1, who did several tests between my old Pulses and i1s and found their readings to be pretty much identical, and who was very disappointed also back in the day to see X-Rite drop the Pulse in favor of what I personally considered to be the much inferior i1, and who was finally very glad to see some of the much-missed features of the Pulse incorporated into the new i1 device...
I'm curious in just what way you consider the Pulse is "inferior."
Mike Adams Correct Color
The HP Z model spectrometers have a white LED as their light source, with no UV content, so they do not measure into UV and their spectral export does not have data beyond 400-700 NM. I have seen the Z's spectrometer described as being simular to: 1/ the Eye 1, which has a tungsten light source with some UV content, cut out in the UV-cut version. 2/ the iSis, which has a UV Led and a white non-UV LED, using them separately. 3/ the Colormunki in a recent message, one white non-UV LED. Which spectrometer comes near the Z's model, light/sensor/grating? I do not know, could be half the iSis, a whole ColorMunki but an Eye 1 is unlikely given the light source. It also measures from a greater distance on larger patches, I think the illumination must have been increased. -- Met vriendelijke groet, Ernst http://www.pigment-print.com/spectralplots/spectrumviz_1.htm April 2014, 600+ inkjet media white spectral plots.
Maybe the next generation? With M1 support? Best / Roger Breton -----Original Message----- From: colorsync-users-bounces+graxx=videotron.ca@lists.apple.com [mailto:colorsync-users-bounces+graxx=videotron.ca@lists.apple.com] On Behalf Of Printservices, SF Sent: 25 juin 2014 21:01 To: colorsync-users@lists.apple.com Subject: Epson Spectroproofer Pulse Hi, I believe the Epson SpectroProofer spectrophotometer is a Pulse device. Does anyone know why Epson is not using i1 technology? Thanks, Gary Scott Technology Support Landor Associates _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Colorsync-users mailing list (Colorsync-users@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/colorsync-users/graxx%40videotron.ca This email sent to graxx@videotron.ca
If anyone wants to make and certify GRACoL2013 proofs using any onboard spectros, they are all going to need M1 support. I know of at least a couple shops who won't even consider moving proofing to GRACoL_2013 because of this. Anybody know of any timetable for Epson or HP or anybody to offer onboard M1 support? -Todd Shirley On Jun 25, 2014, at 9:23 PM, Roger Breton <graxx@videotron.ca> wrote:
Maybe the next generation? With M1 support?
Best / Roger Breton
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I believe the Epson SpectroProofer spectrophotometer is a Pulse device. Does anyone know why Epson is not using i1 technology?
Thanks, Gary Scott Technology Support Landor Associates
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Roger Breton wrote:
Maybe the next generation? With M1 support?
You don't actually need a new instrument to get M1 support. An instrument with incandescent illumination & no UV filter is perfectly capable, although newer instruments with a separate UV illuminant LED should have slightly improved M1 accuracy. Graeme Gill.
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Derek Lambert
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Ernst Dinkla
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G Mike Adams
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Graeme Gill
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Michael Eddington
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Printservices, SF
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Roger Breton
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Terence Wyse
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Todd Shirley