ColorChecker Passport does a decent job with custom camera profiles for every day use. I prefer Adobe's free DNG Profile Editor, at least for studio portraiture. Xrite profiles are contrastier, more saturated and a little too reddish for my taste, at least for portraits. Colorchecker passport is much easier to use, and it is a free utility you can download from Xrite. But, it has no ability to tailor your results. Adobe DNG Profile Editor takes more work, and little more experimenting, but is incredibly flexible. I find it provides a "softer" starting point and makes edits a lot easier and faster in LR or PS. You select a base profile as your starting point (I prefer Camera Neutral for portrait work) and you can edit it as desired, for more or less contrast, saturation, color adjustment, etc. Both of these are designed to work with Adobe Camera Raw (Bridge, PS, or LR) and they are not ICC profiles, but recipes that the ACR program uses during raw display and conversion. You can create profiles for a specific use (a studio setup, specific lighting, etc), or as Scott mentioned, "dual illuminant" profiles that cover a wide range of lighting conditions and interpolate between Daylight (6500K) and an Incandescent (2800K). Either of these programs gives me better color from my digital cameras than the generic camera profiles suppled by Adobe. I use the DNG PE profiles for studio portraiture and softer images. I often use the Xrite profiles for colorful scenes, nature shots, etc. Lou Dina
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Message: 5 Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 08:33:14 -0600 From: Scott Martin <scott@on-sight.com> To: Louis Servedio-Morales <louis@blueseaeditions.com> Cc: Colorsync-users@lists.apple.com Subject: Re: i1Profiler and Digital Camera Profiling Message-ID: <B530D277-488D-4ECC-A623-D1ED07454E3B@on-sight.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
The Colorchecker Passport is Xrite's camera profiling solution and it's a *DNG profiling solution* that only works with Adobe's RAW engine. Let me say that it's incredibly easy and the results are fantastic. The way DNG camera profiles scale between different light sources is brilliant.
ICC camera profiles are a tricky matter that one could argue that it was worth giving up. While I haven't tried using i1P's scanner profiling module to create an ICC camera profile, I'm dubious knowing how many additional variables there are to camera profiling. That said, if you try it out do let us know how it works!
Scott Martin http://www.on-sight.com/ http://www.martinphoto.com/
On Feb 12, 2013, at 4:26 PM, Louis Servedio-Morales < louis@blueseaeditions.com> wrote:
Since i1Profiler does not include a workflow selection for making icc camera profiles, I was wondering if using the scanner workflow on a camera capture of the X-Rite ColorChecker SG be a successful move?
BTW I have tried the DNG color checker passport profiles and like them very much. My need though is for an icc Capture One solution for a studio shooting tethered to C1 using Leaf backs. I am trying to create a colormetric workflow that keeps them from exporting DNG files from one raw processor to open in another that supports the DNG profiles. I'll give it a try and if it fails I'll recommend the easier to create DNG workflow. thanks again, Louis On Feb 13, 2013, at 4:36 PM, Louis Dina <lou@loudina.com> wrote:
ColorChecker Passport does a decent job with custom camera profiles for every day use. I prefer Adobe's free DNG Profile Editor, at least for studio portraiture. Xrite profiles are contrastier, more saturated and a little too reddish for my taste, at least for portraits. Colorchecker passport is much easier to use, and it is a free utility you can download from Xrite. But, it has no ability to tailor your results.
Adobe DNG Profile Editor takes more work, and little more experimenting, but is incredibly flexible. I find it provides a "softer" starting point and makes edits a lot easier and faster in LR or PS. You select a base profile as your starting point (I prefer Camera Neutral for portrait work) and you can edit it as desired, for more or less contrast, saturation, color adjustment, etc.
Both of these are designed to work with Adobe Camera Raw (Bridge, PS, or LR) and they are not ICC profiles, but recipes that the ACR program uses during raw display and conversion.
You can create profiles for a specific use (a studio setup, specific lighting, etc), or as Scott mentioned, "dual illuminant" profiles that cover a wide range of lighting conditions and interpolate between Daylight (6500K) and an Incandescent (2800K). Either of these programs gives me better color from my digital cameras than the generic camera profiles suppled by Adobe.
I use the DNG PE profiles for studio portraiture and softer images. I often use the Xrite profiles for colorful scenes, nature shots, etc.
Lou Dina
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Message: 5 Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 08:33:14 -0600 From: Scott Martin <scott@on-sight.com> To: Louis Servedio-Morales <louis@blueseaeditions.com> Cc: Colorsync-users@lists.apple.com Subject: Re: i1Profiler and Digital Camera Profiling Message-ID: <B530D277-488D-4ECC-A623-D1ED07454E3B@on-sight.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
The Colorchecker Passport is Xrite's camera profiling solution and it's a *DNG profiling solution* that only works with Adobe's RAW engine. Let me say that it's incredibly easy and the results are fantastic. The way DNG camera profiles scale between different light sources is brilliant.
ICC camera profiles are a tricky matter that one could argue that it was worth giving up. While I haven't tried using i1P's scanner profiling module to create an ICC camera profile, I'm dubious knowing how many additional variables there are to camera profiling. That said, if you try it out do let us know how it works!
Scott Martin http://www.on-sight.com/ http://www.martinphoto.com/
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Since i1Profiler does not include a workflow selection for making icc camera profiles, I was wondering if using the scanner workflow on a camera capture of the X-Rite ColorChecker SG be a successful move?
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BTW I have tried the DNG color checker passport profiles and like them very much. My need though is for an icc Capture One solution for a studio shooting tethered to C1 using Leaf backs. I am trying to create a colormetric workflow that keeps them from exporting DNG files from one raw processor to open in another that supports the DNG profiles. I'll give it a try and if it fails I'll recommend the easier to create DNG workflow.
thanks again, Louis
On Feb 13, 2013, at 4:36 PM, Louis Dina <lou@loudina.com> wrote:
ColorChecker Passport does a decent job with custom camera profiles for every day use. I prefer Adobe's free DNG Profile Editor, at least for studio portraiture. Xrite profiles are contrastier, more saturated and a little too reddish for my taste, at least for portraits. Colorchecker passport is much easier to use, and it is a free utility you can download from Xrite. But, it has no ability to tailor your results.
Adobe DNG Profile Editor takes more work, and little more experimenting, but is incredibly flexible. I find it provides a "softer" starting point and makes edits a lot easier and faster in LR or PS. You select a base profile as your starting point (I prefer Camera Neutral for portrait work) and you can edit it as desired, for more or less contrast, saturation, color adjustment, etc.
Both of these are designed to work with Adobe Camera Raw (Bridge, PS, or LR) and they are not ICC profiles, but recipes that the ACR program uses during raw display and conversion.
You can create profiles for a specific use (a studio setup, specific lighting, etc), or as Scott mentioned, "dual illuminant" profiles that cover a wide range of lighting conditions and interpolate between Daylight (6500K) and an Incandescent (2800K). Either of these programs gives me better color from my digital cameras than the generic camera profiles suppled by Adobe.
I use the DNG PE profiles for studio portraiture and softer images. I often use the Xrite profiles for colorful scenes, nature shots, etc.
Lou Dina
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Message: 5 Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 08:33:14 -0600 From: Scott Martin <scott@on-sight.com> To: Louis Servedio-Morales <louis@blueseaeditions.com> Cc: Colorsync-users@lists.apple.com Subject: Re: i1Profiler and Digital Camera Profiling Message-ID: <B530D277-488D-4ECC-A623-D1ED07454E3B@on-sight.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
The Colorchecker Passport is Xrite's camera profiling solution and it's a *DNG profiling solution* that only works with Adobe's RAW engine. Let me say that it's incredibly easy and the results are fantastic. The way DNG camera profiles scale between different light sources is brilliant.
ICC camera profiles are a tricky matter that one could argue that it was worth giving up. While I haven't tried using i1P's scanner profiling module to create an ICC camera profile, I'm dubious knowing how many additional variables there are to camera profiling. That said, if you try it out do let us know how it works!
Scott Martin http://www.on-sight.com/ http://www.martinphoto.com/
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Since i1Profiler does not include a workflow selection for making icc camera profiles, I was wondering if using the scanner workflow on a camera capture of the X-Rite ColorChecker SG be a successful move?
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Can anyone point me in the direction of device link creation software that works well? We do have ALWAN CMYK optimizer server in our workflow. I'm looking for a solution that can be loaded into our Prinergy workflow without any other servers involved. Thanks -- Steve Miller Color Management Specialist "The future's brite" BIC Advertising & Promotional Products 1000 3rd Ave. SW Sleepy Eye, MN 56085 Tel.: (1) 507 794 8203 E-mail: slmiller@norwood.com www.norwood.com / www.bicgraphic.com CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE This electronic message is confidential and may contain legally privileged information intended only for the use of the individual or company named above. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible to deliver it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communications is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error please immediately notify us by telephone, and return the original message to us at the address below. IRS Circular 230 Disclosure: As provided for in Treasury regulations, advice (if any) relating to federal taxes that is contained in this communication (including attachments) is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (1) avoiding penalties under the IRS Code or (2) promotion, marketing or recommending to another party any transaction or matter addressed herein: Norwood & BIC Graphic, 14421 Myerlake Circle, Clearwater, FL 33760. www.norwood.com / www.bicgraphic.com
We have used Alwan Link Profiler for 6 years as part of daily production and have been happy with the results. You would already be familiar with the controls and results as CMYK Optimizer user. The products are nearly the same save dynamic linking and TAC. Another difference is the lack of RGB to CMYK. Matt Louis On Feb 18, 2013, at 9:02 AM, "Steve Miller" <SLMiller@norwood.com> wrote:
Can anyone point me in the direction of device link creation software that works well? We do have ALWAN CMYK optimizer server in our workflow. I'm looking for a solution that can be loaded into our Prinergy workflow without any other servers involved. Thanks --
Steve Miller Color Management Specialist
"The future's brite"
TGLC makes Device Link Pro. It scored very well on the IPA's Ink Optimization Roundup. You can load those links on your Prinergy server. There are two ways to license the links; You can outright buy the software and create links to your hearts delight. Or you can buy individual links as needed. Let me know if you need any help. Matt Beals matt@mattbeals.com (206) 618-2537 On 2/18/2013 7:02 AM, Steve Miller wrote:
Can anyone point me in the direction of device link creation software that works well? We do have ALWAN CMYK optimizer server in our workflow. I'm looking for a solution that can be loaded into our Prinergy workflow without any other servers involved. Thanks
Alwan Link Profiler....makes static links. Terry On Feb 18, 2013, at 10:02 AM, Steve Miller <SLMiller@norwood.com> wrote:
Can anyone point me in the direction of device link creation software that works well? We do have ALWAN CMYK optimizer server in our workflow. I'm looking for a solution that can be loaded into our Prinergy workflow without any other servers involved. Thanks --
Steve Miller Color Management Specialist
"The future's brite"
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José Ángel Bueno García
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Louis Dina
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Louis Servedio-Morales
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Matt Beals
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Matt Louis
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Steve Miller
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Terence Wyse