Hi, Hi to all Let me explain this a bit. When we moved to PMS+ we changed paper type so we had to redo the data base. This has nothing to do with X-rite buying Pantone. At the same time, X-rite was introducing XRGA and that technology was applied to the new data set. We measured the first printing across many replicates and built the new data base. PMS+ colors changed for a number of reasons, but primarily the paper base was different. It was a conscious decision to use environmentally approved FSC (forest stewardship Council) paper. All current X-rite instruments are XRGA standardized and if they contain PMS+ data it is from exactly the same source that is distributed to Pantone Licensees. The data that is shared with most licensees is UV cut (Measurement mode M2). There are many legacy instruments which are not XRGA upgraded or do not have the upgraded data base in them. I believe that the instrument has to be returned for upgrade and recalibration. The current values in Photoshop CS5 are correct. Tom Lianza Corporate Free Electron Co-Chairman International Color Consortium X-Rite Corporation On 1/16/12 6:29 PM, "Matt Louis" <matt@printplace.com> wrote:

Related: I have in my notes from last April the CIElab values for PMS 2747 changed when Pantone replaced the solid coated formula guides with the +Plus series from L* 17 a*17 b*-54 to L* 13.691 a* 21.787 b* -54.478 respectively, so there's a dE76 5.8 we got just by watching the show.

The one thing that stays the same are the ink formulas. The CIElab values change. My ink vendor tells me his techs compare drawdowns to the +PLUS series books. The Pantone Solid formula guides and libraries are relics.

Matt Louis

On Jan 16, 2012, at 4:49 PM, Thomas Richard wrote:

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The values of the actual Pantone Swatch Library "PANTONE+ Solid Coated" for the Adobe CS suite are: 16 | 15 | 7

There ist the download: http://www.pantone.de/pages/Pantone/Pantone.aspx?pg=20721&ca=1

MfG

Thomas

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Hi, I have just been informed that I am wrong about Photoshop CS 5 natively having the correct Pantone values. Here are two links that point to the down load procedures for the new libraries: http://blogs.adobe.com/indesigndocs/2010/08/new-pantone-libraries.html http://www.pantone.com/pages/Pantone/Pantone.aspx?pg=20721&ca=1 I apologize for the misinformation, but I was under the impression because I had one of our account specialists check the instrument contents against the CS 5, but he didn't tell me that he upgraded the libraries manually. In general, licensees get UV cut data unless they request other data. Regards, Tom On 1/17/12 8:25 AM, "Roger Breton" <graxx@videotron.ca> wrote:

Tom,

You wrote:

"The current values in Photoshop CS5 are correct."

Are they UV-cut?

Best / Roger

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The update of PMS+ is the responsibility of the supplier. We just provide the data. We built the installer for Adobe due to time constraints on Adobe's side. You can get the values if you have a current book and register for a free version of Pantone Color manager. If you don't have a guide, you can buy the software http://www.pantone.com/pages/Products/Product.aspx?pid=1017&ca=1 For 49.00 dollars US. Regards, Tom On 1/18/12 1:34 PM, "Marcelo Copetti" <marcelo@easycolor.com.br> wrote:

Good afternoon

Is there installers for others applications?

Corel Draw, for example?

Thank you

Marcelo Copetti marcelo@easycolor.com.br 41 9941-1740

On 17/01/2012, at 12:48, Tom Lianza wrote:

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Hi,

I have just been informed that I am wrong about Photoshop CS 5 natively having the correct Pantone values. Here are two links that point to the down load procedures for the new libraries:

http://blogs.adobe.com/indesigndocs/2010/08/new-pantone-libraries.html

http://www.pantone.com/pages/Pantone/Pantone.aspx?pg=20721&ca=1

I apologize for the misinformation, but I was under the impression because I had one of our account specialists check the instrument contents against the CS 5, but he didn't tell me that he upgraded the libraries manually.

In general, licensees get UV cut data unless they request other data.

Regards, Tom

On 1/17/12 8:25 AM, "Roger Breton" <graxx@videotron.ca> wrote:

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Tom,

You wrote:

"The current values in Photoshop CS5 are correct."

Are they UV-cut?

Best / Roger

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