The 7800 is and remains a "safe" value, IMO. But I would not mind having the flexibility of a RIP to drive it. I personally tested Canon ImageRunners, with RIPs, in the past and they were quite good. I can't say Canon had a larger gamut than the Xerox but it's output was quite accurate, in terms of average deltas with regards to SWOP2006_C3 which, at the time, was the gamut I was comparing against. The only problem with all three "photocopiers" / printers I tested, at the time, Minolta, Canon and Xerox, was the inability to maintain the calibration over time: as soon as I changed substrate, going from outputting on Fortune Gloss 60 Lbs 13x19 to regular Bond paper Tabloid, the delta Es degraded quite a bit, from 1.85 deltaE to upwards of 3 to 4, and I had to reprofile to get back to 1.85ish. Have you looked at Ricoh? Canon has a powerful RIP of their own. Fiery RIP color management features can be daunting... Xerox's own RIP, I suspect, could be better than Fiery but it's not offered with the 7800... Not that I know of. Best / Roger -----Original Message----- From: colorsync-users <colorsync-users-bounces+graxx=videotron.ca@lists.apple.com> On Behalf Of Barry Gorrell Sent: Monday, May 20, 2019 1:10 PM To: colorsync-users@lists.apple.com Subject: imageRunner 5535i vs Phaser 7800GX Hello, We’re considering replacement of our 10 year old Xerox Phaser 7800GX, but it appears Xerox has not released an newer replacement for their 7800. We do not use a RIP, but have made custom profiles for students to use with our Phaser and have been very happy with it’s excellent color gamut and accuracy as a proof printer. With any new printer we’d prefer one with a somewhat higher print volume and lower consumable costs. We’re looking at Canon’s imageRUNNER 5535i v3 and were wondering if any colorsync list subscribers might have experience with one or both of these printers and could comment on their comparative color gamuts, reliability and ease of profiling. Canon offers a EFI Fiery RIP option, but we’d much prefer either a 3rd party RIP or no RIP at all. Any and all comment regarding these two printers are welcome, especially on the issue of using a RIP or not and if so which would be preferable. Years ago we used the imagePRINT RIP with an Epson 4800 inkjet printer and got good results, but ultimately abandoned it because of a low level of need, high maintenance costs and poor support. Thanks in advance for any comment you might care to share. Regards, Barry Gorrell VCP Lab Coordinator [cid:50FA3AFD-DCB0-4FC0-BA82-AB68F1EFD69A]