Re: colorsync-users Digest, Vol 21, Issue 29
Hi This may suit your budget, only 27" thro: https://www.benq.eu/en-uk/monitor/professional/sw272u.html Paul Sherfield Please note my mobile is now my main contact number: Mobile: + 44 7899 906385 http://www.missinghorsecons.co.uk <http://www.missinghorsecons.co.uk> http://twitter.com/#!/missinghorse <http://twitter.com/#!/missinghorse> FESPA Colour Management Ambassador BPIF Affiliate Consultant Interim Co-Chair - BSI PAI 43 UK committee on ISO TC130 printing standards Member - UK TC130 Technical Advisory Group (ISO Printing Standards) UK Expert: ISO TC130-Working Group 3 on printing standards Chair – BPIF Colour Quality Scheme Certification Steering Group GDPR-Please let us know if you require a copy of our policy This email and any attachments may be confidential and are intended solely for the use of addressee. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, any disclosure, copying or other distribution is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender and delete all copies from your system. Email may be susceptible to data corruption, interception and unauthorised amendment. We do not accept liability for any such corruption, interception or amendment or the consequences thereof. We do not accept liability for any action or inaction by the recipient as a result of advice or information contained within this email. Paper is renewable, sustainable and the most recycled material in Europe. If you print this email, please recycle On 30/03/2024, 19:00, "colorsync-users-request@lists.apple.com <mailto:colorsync-users-request@lists.apple.com>" <colorsync-users-request@lists.apple.com <mailto:colorsync-users-request@lists.apple.com>> wrote: Send colorsync-users mailing list submissions to colorsync-users@lists.apple.com <mailto:colorsync-users@lists.apple.com> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.apple.com/mailman/listinfo/colorsync-users <https://lists.apple.com/mailman/listinfo/colorsync-users> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to colorsync-users-request@lists.apple.com <mailto:colorsync-users-request@lists.apple.com> You can reach the person managing the list at colorsync-users-owner@lists.apple.com <mailto:colorsync-users-owner@lists.apple.com> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of colorsync-users digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Monitor/display suggestions? (Dimitri Katsaros) 2. Re: Monitor/display suggestions? (Andrew Rodney) 3. Re: Monitor/display suggestions? (Refik Telhan) 4. 1931 vs 1976 (Jeff Nova) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2024 14:10:32 -0700 From: Dimitri Katsaros <dcka@yahoo.com <mailto:dcka@yahoo.com>> To: "colorsync-users@lists.apple.com <mailto:colorsync-users@lists.apple.com>" <colorsync-users@lists.apple.com <mailto:colorsync-users@lists.apple.com>> Subject: Re: Monitor/display suggestions? Message-ID: <76457322-7AD2-499A-B626-56824FD63429@yahoo.com <mailto:76457322-7AD2-499A-B626-56824FD63429@yahoo.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Everyone, please? I think everyone?s gone deep into the weeds. All I was really, honestly asking for was a suggestion for a *reasonable* replacement for the NEC PA302W. Only one of you actually replied and mentioned looking at the Eizo ColorEdge series.Unfortunately, the only one that?s approximately the same size is the CG319X which is approximately triple my budget. Are there any other monitors worth considering? Thank you Dimitri Katsaros ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2024 15:17:21 -0600 From: Andrew Rodney <andrew@digitaldog.net <mailto:andrew@digitaldog.net>> To: "colorsync-users@lists.apple.com <mailto:colorsync-users@lists.apple.com>" <colorsync-users@lists.apple.com <mailto:colorsync-users@lists.apple.com>> Subject: Re: Monitor/display suggestions? Message-ID: <C4EC265D-C506-42DE-9ABB-392D697F1DDD@digitaldog.net <mailto:C4EC265D-C506-42DE-9ABB-392D697F1DDD@digitaldog.net>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
On Mar 29, 2024, at 3:10?PM, Dimitri Katsaros via colorsync-users <colorsync-users@lists.apple.com <mailto:colorsync-users@lists.apple.com>> wrote:
Everyone, please? I think everyone?s gone deep into the weeds.
All I was really, honestly asking for was a suggestion for a *reasonable* replacement for the NEC PA302W. Only one of you actually replied and mentioned looking at the Eizo ColorEdge series.Unfortunately, the only one that?s approximately the same size is the CG319X which is approximately triple my budget. Are there any other monitors worth considering?
I'm not sure what part of the planet you are on. I'm sorry, but the PAs are still available somewhat. For example, at $2K: http://officewonderland.com/listings/nec-pa302w-bk-sv-30-1610-ips-monitor-wi... <http://officewonderland.com/listings/nec-pa302w-bk-sv-30-1610-ips-monitor-with-spectrav/?gad_source=4> https://bluesquare.digital/nec-display-multisync-pa302w-30-led-lcd-monitor-1... <https://bluesquare.digital/nec-display-multisync-pa302w-30-led-lcd-monitor-16-10-6-ms-adjustable-display-angle-2560-x-1600-1-07-billion-colors-340-nit-1-000-1-wqxga-dvi-hdmi-displayport-usb-87-w-white-rohs.html> You might look around, even on eBay or similar, to see if you can find a new or used unit. Andrew Rodney http://www.digitaldog.net/ <http://www.digitaldog.net/> ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2024 02:37:23 +0300 From: Refik Telhan <rtelhan@icloud.com <mailto:rtelhan@icloud.com>> To: Dimitri Katsaros <dcka@yahoo.com <mailto:dcka@yahoo.com>>, "colorsync-users@lists.apple.com <mailto:colorsync-users@lists.apple.com>" <colorsync-users@lists.apple.com <mailto:colorsync-users@lists.apple.com>> Subject: Re: Monitor/display suggestions? Message-ID: <137C1A4C-8319-4DE8-98ED-771E1CC287D1@icloud.com <mailto:137C1A4C-8319-4DE8-98ED-771E1CC287D1@icloud.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hi Dimitri, To stay in the Adobe RGB world without breaking the bank, you can take a look at the ViewSonic VP2786-4K. https://www.viewsonic.com/us/products/vp2786-4k.html <https://www.viewsonic.com/us/products/vp2786-4k.html> https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search?Ntt=viewsonic%20colorpro%20vp2786-4k&N... <https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search?Ntt=viewsonic%20colorpro%20vp2786-4k&N=0&InitialSearch=yes&sts=ps> https://www.amazon.com/ViewSonic-VP2786-4K-Integrated-DisplayPort-Profession... <https://www.amazon.com/ViewSonic-VP2786-4K-Integrated-DisplayPort-Professional/dp/B09Q62HDPX/ref=sr_1_2?dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.sZxmTSfhfW-ux2gptMa8KCH9lqDTTg_u7VVoQtp6LYxgV_bGd4NCmpJLVR4kgR0FpBrMISZ17_80Bq9Ll1KjGyBpLVf68T9nbeh8cKHHNZuXaJkm0goXLOOI88HpSfzqDD_u2wosjRW3w_uml9oUiircHuyYaHi4_M2g7OgYZlHOde2rEsINXZZ_vo7ztKhmtiKvXNoCYN4aIFlXSnIyq_bvOCidr3eFWw6pPpPYOmU.N5XnxYr6-GKudjoZ3UaV0ND8Io8LEj_D5Gaop98KdM4&dib_tag=se&keywords=viewsonic+vp2786-4k&qid=1711753291&sr=8-2> This device is certified for soft proofing by both FOGRA and IDEALLIANCE: https://fogra.org/en/certification/certified-persons-companies-and-products/... <https://fogra.org/en/certification/certified-persons-companies-and-products/softproof-monitor?filter%5Bmanufacturer%5D=viewsonic&filter%5BconformanceLevel%5D=all&filter%5BreportNo%5D=&filter%5Bfull_text%5D=> https://idealliance.org/systems-certification/soft-proofing-certified-system... <https://idealliance.org/systems-certification/soft-proofing-certified-systems/> The current ISO standards, namely ISO 12646:2015 and ISO 14861:2015, that define soft proofing capability of displays do not directly address their observer metameric properties. Hence you have to keep mind that all WCG displays come with some level of observer metameric mismatch. Alternatively, BenQ SW321C, SW272U or SW272Q are also Adobe RGB capable WCG Displays. https://www.benq.com/en-us/monitor/compare-all.html?feature-category=photo-r... <https://www.benq.com/en-us/monitor/compare-all.html?feature-category=photo-retouch> The rest of the ColorPro series from ViewSonic (sRGB) and BenQ?s DesignVue displays (some can do P3 but mostly sRGB) may also serve in color critical scenarios with their more limited gamuts. Refik Telhan ?-----Original Message----- From: Dimitri Katsaros via colorsync-users <colorsync-users@lists.apple.com <mailto:colorsync-users@lists.apple.com> <mailto:colorsync-users@lists.apple.com <mailto:colorsync-users@lists.apple.com>>> Reply-To: Dimitri Katsaros <dcka@yahoo.com <mailto:dcka@yahoo.com> <mailto:dcka@yahoo.com <mailto:dcka@yahoo.com>>> Date: 30 March 2024 Saturday 00:10 To: "colorsync-users@lists.apple.com <mailto:colorsync-users@lists.apple.com> <mailto:colorsync-users@lists.apple.com <mailto:colorsync-users@lists.apple.com>>" <colorsync-users@lists.apple.com <mailto:colorsync-users@lists.apple.com> <mailto:colorsync-users@lists.apple.com <mailto:colorsync-users@lists.apple.com>>> Subject: Re: Monitor/display suggestions? Everyone, please? I think everyone?s gone deep into the weeds. All I was really, honestly asking for was a suggestion for a *reasonable* replacement for the NEC PA302W. Only one of you actually replied and mentioned looking at the Eizo ColorEdge series.Unfortunately, the only one that?s approximately the same size is the CG319X which is approximately triple my budget. Are there any other monitors worth considering? Thank you Dimitri Katsaros _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. colorsync-users mailing list (colorsync-users@lists.apple.com <mailto:colorsync-users@lists.apple.com> <mailto:colorsync-users@lists.apple.com <mailto:colorsync-users@lists.apple.com>>) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/colorsync-users/rtelhan%40icloud.com <https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/colorsync-users/rtelhan%40icloud.com> <https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/colorsync-users/rtelhan%40icloud.com> <https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/colorsync-users/rtelhan%40icloud.com>> This email sent to rtelhan@icloud.com <mailto:rtelhan@icloud.com> <mailto:rtelhan@icloud.com <mailto:rtelhan@icloud.com>> ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2024 19:48:15 -0700 From: Jeff Nova <jnova@colorhythm.com <mailto:jnova@colorhythm.com>> To: "'colorsync-users?lists.apple.com' List" <colorsync-users@lists.apple.com <mailto:colorsync-users@lists.apple.com>> Subject: 1931 vs 1976 Message-ID: <CAPTwpmaijqh=GXyqEHRRhi=YEWednNG9FkSB2kqP2HrrnKezag@mail.gmail.com <mailto:YEWednNG9FkSB2kqP2HrrnKezag@mail.gmail.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" It seems the chromaticity diagram from CIE 1931 is the only one really used, although 1976 is considered to be a significant improvement. Do I have that right? We are deciding which to show first in our software, and I'd love any input I can get from the colorati! - J Jeff Nova Chief Executive Officer Colorhythm https://colorhythm.com <https://colorhythm.com> Mobile: +1 510-710-9590 Main: +1 415-399-9921 *This electronic mail and the documents accompanying it are considered trade secret, confidential and/or proprietary by Colorhythm LLC. This information is intended for use by the individual or entity to whom this e-mail is addressed. 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