I have to throw my grain of salt here. I did an experiment last year where I created a paper profile for Epson Double Weight Matte while looking for a way to proof one of the new Uncoated CRPC. I used a Minolta FD-9 to make M1 measurements. In the end, I proofed my good old Macbeth ColorChecker and, boy, under ISO-3664:2009 lamps, was I surprised by the visual match? Wouldn't have never expected that. Best / Roger -----Original Message----- From: colorsync-users <colorsync-users-bounces+graxx=videotron.ca@lists.apple.com> On Behalf Of Refik Telhan Sent: Thursday, March 7, 2019 4:04 PM To: colorsync-users@lists.apple.com List <colorsync-users@lists.apple.com> Cc: John Lund <john@jwlimages.com> Subject: Re: Proofing media (was Re: Monitor White Point Confusion) Hi John, Here is a short list: EFI Proofing Paper 8245OBA Semimatt M0: 95.62|0.77|-3.20 M1: 95.74|0.93|-4.49 GMG ProofPaper Semimatte 250 OBA M0: 97.17|0.31|-3.24 M1: 97.30|0.48|-4.72 Felix Schoeller P51311 TRUST PREMIUM SATIN 200 M0: 95.75|0.85|-3.28 M1: 95.86|1.00|-4.49 Mitsubishi Papers SM 2551 P M0: 96.00|0.92|-3.58 M1: 96.11|1.11|-4.91 These are measured on a white backing with an i1Pro2. Some of them have slightly different values in their datasheets. I have profiled and used two of them. I have physical samples of the remaining two. They really come close to the real thing, Best, Refik Telhan On 07.03.2019 20:56, "colorsync-users on behalf of John Lund" <colorsync-users-bounces+rtelhan=icloud.com@lists.apple.com on behalf of john@jwlimages.com> wrote: Thanks to all for this discussion. I have learned a lot. Ben’s comment also reminded me of a question I have wanted to pose… > On Mar 7, 2019, at 9:17 AM, Ben Goren <ben@trumpetpower.com <mailto:ben@trumpetpower.com>> wrote: > > If you can’t make proof prints on the same stock as the final, at least get something with a similar amount of OBA. For the past few years we have been using Epson’s Proofing Paper White Semimatte as a (relatively) neutral media for our Fiery-driven Epson SC P9000 proofing system. I am finding that increasingly, our clients’s files are being printed on paper stock loaded with optical brightening agents, so our “neutral” media appears quite “yellowish” compared to the final press output. I’m beginning to think that media that measures “neutral” is now anachronistic when proofing for publications. So my question is, what might be a more appropriate paper for general-purpose proofing - recommendations gladly accepted! Thanks, John JWL Images _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. colorsync-users mailing list (colorsync-users@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/colorsync-users/rtelhan%40icloud.com This email sent to rtelhan@icloud.com _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. colorsync-users mailing list (colorsync-users@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/colorsync-users/graxx%40videotron.ca This email sent to graxx@videotron.ca