What PC do you use for digital imaging?
Wow! I thank all responders for their expertise, suggestions, and the story about the IT department. That story helped in pushing harder to stay, for now, with MBP. I did research regarding custom crafted PC notebooks. Nearly every notebook configuration is less expensive than what I finally ordered. This is what I did order. $2,099.99 free shipping 17" MacBook Pro quad-core Intel Core i7 2.3GHz, 4GB RAM, 750GB 5400-rpm Hard Drive, Intel HD Graphics 3000 and AMD Radeon HD 6750M, Hi-Res Antiglare Widescreen Display (Blowout Model - Installed w/ Mac OS X Lion) Mftr Part No : MD036LL/A No longer available from Apple. But available from a few other retailers. This is from MacMall. Sure, in 2013, Mac may offer the 17 inch display in the MBP. Will Apple bring back the optical drive? And what about all the connection ports I currently use, and are still available with custom crafted 17 in matte display PC. So? I placed my order to still be able to use my peripherals. Edmund and others are correct, in my opinion, don't update. Several of us, have had printer issues when working OS's had been updated or even upgraded. You with Macs have already had this issue. Unless you have been using a RIP. I have recently been using Gutenprint, along with the Epson drivers. Gutenprint is my main driver. When LION shows up on this new notebook, I wonder what will happen with the Epson drivers? In our early years with Windows 3 I got used to the PC and it's file system. Seems like the whole windows wa built like an upside down pyramid, on top of DOS. Don't know if it still is. Is it? PC's were used for accounting, business issues, etc. My employees, knowledgeable in imaging suggested the Mac. Purchased the blue and white G3 with OS 8.6. Those G3's are working somewhere, I guess. So are the G4 Audio's. And I still use my G5. This is being typed on my MBP 4.1, 17 inch matte display. I am keeping it! If LION isn't compatible with my workflow, then Snow Leopard will go on the new MBP. It's not to late to cancel the new MBP order. I don't know of any reason to. Again, thank you all! Cheers David B. Miller, Pharm. D. member Millers' Photography L.L.C. 3809 Alabama Street Bellingham, WA 98226 360 739 2826 digitalimaging@dnmillerphoto.com Sent from my MacBook Pro
On Jun 14, 2012, at 3:55 PM, Millers' Photography L.L.C. wrote:
When LION shows up on this new notebook, I wonder what will happen with the Epson drivers?
I use it on a number of late model wide format Epsons. It's mostly fine. The main glitch is that saved settings don't properly "stick" the roll paper option out of most programs. You can change it and print as you like but if you so much as look at the printer settings again you'll have to manually reset the roll options. Everything else in saved settings works as expected. I see this behavior out of any version of Photoshop after CS4. Every Apple app I've tried does the same thing. Everything prints correctly (all saved settings work) out of Lightroom 3 or 4; Illustrator CS5; and InDesign CS5. As per your computer I would HIGHLY recommend replacing the hard drive with one of the SSDs from macsales.com. Huge performance boost. I've setup a couple of MacBook Pros with a 250GB SSD for system/apps/Lightroom Catalog/Photoshop Scratch. I replaced the DVD drive with a regular 1TB spinning hard drive for data storage. These are easy mods to do yourself. I hook the DVD up by USB on the rare times that I need it. The rest of the time I have a very compact, portable setup that can hold plenty of data without plugging in or lugging around any external devices. Bob Smith
Good thoughts, Bob. Before order was actually placed, I phoned OWC to be sure how much RAM I can have in this new MBP 16GB. Either two 8GB sticks of their brand, or four, 4GB sticks by Samsung. The later is a bit less expensive. And for the HD, just don't know. I may just purchase a 750 GB 7200 rpm HD. SSD's I don't know what external HD's I would have to hold all the other data. With SSD, I assume I would only have actual working software and programs. This MBP that I am on, was ordered with the 200GB 7200 rpm. I eventually purchased from OWC, the 750GB 7200rpm HD and installed it. The HD taken out is now in a Mercury elite 800 FW enclosure, and used as a scratch disc for PS. Lots of options open for me. Some custom crafted PC's can have 32 GB RAM. What puzzled me was the sales person that was educating me said for PS, never need more than 16GB. Sure I good ask for the 32GB RAM, and he would not build the PC that way for me. End of that story. David B. Miller, Pharm. D. member Millers' Photography L.L.C. 3809 Alabama Street Bellingham, WA 98226 360 739 2826 digitalimaging@dnmillerphoto.com Sent from my MacBook Pro On Jun 14, 2012, at 2:13 PM, Bob Smith wrote:
On Jun 14, 2012, at 3:55 PM, Millers' Photography L.L.C. wrote:
When LION shows up on this new notebook, I wonder what will happen with the Epson drivers?
I use it on a number of late model wide format Epsons. It's mostly fine. The main glitch is that saved settings don't properly "stick" the roll paper option out of most programs. You can change it and print as you like but if you so much as look at the printer settings again you'll have to manually reset the roll options. Everything else in saved settings works as expected. I see this behavior out of any version of Photoshop after CS4. Every Apple app I've tried does the same thing. Everything prints correctly (all saved settings work) out of Lightroom 3 or 4; Illustrator CS5; and InDesign CS5.
As per your computer I would HIGHLY recommend replacing the hard drive with one of the SSDs from macsales.com. Huge performance boost. I've setup a couple of MacBook Pros with a 250GB SSD for system/apps/Lightroom Catalog/Photoshop Scratch. I replaced the DVD drive with a regular 1TB spinning hard drive for data storage. These are easy mods to do yourself. I hook the DVD up by USB on the rare times that I need it. The rest of the time I have a very compact, portable setup that can hold plenty of data without plugging in or lugging around any external devices.
Bob Smith
On Jun 14, 2012, at 4:29 PM, Millers' Photography L.L.C. wrote:
With SSD, I assume I would only have actual working software and programs.
Depends on how much money you want to throw at it to get one large enough for more tasks. If you get one large enough to comfortably hold the System, apps, and at least the Library portion of your user directory that's where most users will see the greatest performance boost. I have large Lightroom catalog/previews on mine and 250GB works just fine for me. Images and other data are stored on a spinning drive mounted where the DVD drive would usually go. You'll see a minor speed bump with the 7200RPM drive. You'll see a much larger one with a good SSD. The OWC branded ones are good. Bob Smith
Agreed! On Jun 14, 2012, at 3:04 PM, Bob Smith wrote:
On Jun 14, 2012, at 4:29 PM, Millers' Photography L.L.C. wrote:
With SSD, I assume I would only have actual working software and programs.
Depends on how much money you want to throw at it to get one large enough for more tasks. If you get one large enough to comfortably hold the System, apps, and at least the Library portion of your user directory that's where most users will see the greatest performance boost. I have large Lightroom catalog/previews on mine and 250GB works just fine for me. Images and other data are stored on a spinning drive mounted where the DVD drive would usually go. You'll see a minor speed bump with the 7200RPM drive. You'll see a much larger one with a good SSD. The OWC branded ones are good.
Bob Smith
Thank you for your prompt consideration and response. Sincerely, David B. Miller, Pharm. D. member Millers' Photography L.L.C. 3809 Alabama Street Bellingham, WA 98226 360 739 2826 digitalimaging@dnmillerphoto.com Sent from my MacBook Pro
Bob Smith wrote:
As per your computer I would HIGHLY recommend replacing the hard drive with one of the SSDs from macsales.com. Huge performance boost. I've setup a couple of MacBook Pros with a 250GB SSD for system/apps/Lightroom Catalog/Photoshop Scratch. I replaced the DVD drive with a regular 1TB spinning hard drive for data storage. These are easy mods to do yourself. I hook the DVD up by
The latest MacBook Pros seem to have zero upgrade capability, not even the battery can be replaced. This is a major turn off if you ask me - basically planned obsolescence, as rechargeable batteries are certain to wear out in a few years (or worse). In fact my current MacBook killed its battery within 1 year due to what appears to have been dodgy firmware settings in the battery management software. Luckily it was relatively simple and cheap to buy another battery, replace it myself and turn off the sleep mode. [ It appears that the machine didn't switch from sleep to hard shutdown when the battery dropped below the critical threshold after being unused for two weeks, and because Li-ion batteries become dangerous if over discharged, the battery appeared to have set its suicide bit. Apple had a replacement program for a remarkably similar fault, but it didn't cover my particular machine.] That, and a very bad experience with my previous Titanium Apple laptop (faulty or possibly wrongly chosen hall effect sensor that I eventually had to fix myself for about $2 after the Apple authorised dealer happily replaced the motherboard for $1000, and when that didn't fixed it told me that "their repair guarantee only covered the replacement component, they didn't guarantee to fix the fault") has given me the impression that Apples hardware is not always what it's cracked up to be, and their current direction has not improved serviceability at all. Graeme Gill.
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