Mac10.8 and photoshop icons flat
Hi, I have searched here and there but have come up empty. Can someone shed some light on this problem for me please? My photoshop image icons look terrible with Mac OS 10.8 and Photoshop CS6. The image icons are all being incorrectly assigned sRGB and I can't make it behave any differently. When I Get Info on a file in the Finder, it does know the file is using ProPhoto, or AdobeRGB, etc., yet the thumbnail for the image in the Finder is incorrectly assigning sRGB. I understand that Mac OS 10.6 switched from Generic RGB to sRGB for untagged images. Thats all well and good but my files are tagged. Is there a fix, a solution? I hate looking at my files with this type of poor behavior. Thank you, David
On Aug 27, 2013, at 2:04 PM, David Wollmann <david@lenzart.us> wrote:
Hi, I have searched here and there but have come up empty. Can someone shed some light on this problem for me please? My photoshop image icons look terrible with Mac OS 10.8 and Photoshop CS6.
The image icons are all being incorrectly assigned sRGB and I can't make it behave any differently. When I Get Info on a file in the Finder, it does know the file is using ProPhoto, or AdobeRGB, etc., yet the thumbnail for the image in the Finder is incorrectly assigning sRGB.
I understand that Mac OS 10.6 switched from Generic RGB to sRGB for untagged images. Thats all well and good but my files are tagged.
Is there a fix, a solution? I hate looking at my files with this type of poor behavior.
I think that assuming that the Finder will use the contained image's contained profile is a mistake. I think the problem is likely that the image preview saved by the application is not converted to sRGB, which would be wise. Another possibility is that the image icon you are seeing is an icon preview created by the Finder. In that case it would be nice if it were color managed… perhaps an email to Apple will bring their attention to it? Do you know if the image icon you are viewing is the Photoshop preview icon (saved into the document itself) or a Finder preview? (I appreciate I just argued both sides of the case here but I guess that's how my brain's working today) regards, Steve
On 27 Aug 2013, at 22:04, David Wollmann <david@lenzart.us> wrote:
The image icons are all being incorrectly assigned sRGB and I can't make it behave any differently.
The 10.8 Finder doesn't assign anything, it just assumes that your monitor profile is going to produce pleasing results for any RGB values -- like a giant iPad :-( The bigger your monitor gamut the more ludicrous the icon previews and app icons look. And, with the consistency we expect from Apple, the preview in the Finder's Get Info window is properly colour managed... -- Martin Orpen Idea Digital Imaging Ltd
I think where your getting into problems is by letting PSCS6 write custom icons. This is not even allowed in PSCC. Letting the OS create the icon form the file itself allows for what appears to be proper color managed icons. Doyle On Aug 27, 2013, at 6:39 PM, Martin Orpen <martin@idea-digital.com> wrote:
On 27 Aug 2013, at 22:04, David Wollmann <david@lenzart.us> wrote:
The image icons are all being incorrectly assigned sRGB and I can't make it behave any differently.
The 10.8 Finder doesn't assign anything, it just assumes that your monitor profile is going to produce pleasing results for any RGB values -- like a giant iPad :-(
The bigger your monitor gamut the more ludicrous the icon previews and app icons look.
And, with the consistency we expect from Apple, the preview in the Finder's Get Info window is properly colour managed...
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On 27 Aug 2013, at 23:54, Doyle Yoder <doyle@dypinc.com> wrote:
Letting the OS create the icon form the file itself allows for what appears to be proper color managed icons.
Not on a modern Mac :-( The Finder displays the icon RGB values using the monitor profile. Just take a look at the Dock on a wide gamut display. The application icons for apps like InDesign CS6 are headache-inducing and unbearable to look at. As I see it, you've got two options for high-end colour work - avoid the Finder and Dock as much as possible or use a product like BasICColor Display to produce a monitor profile which is constrained using their "Color Space Emulation" feature to a specific working space or device space. -- Martin Orpen Idea Digital Imaging Ltd
Sorry I did not realize this thread was about OS/Dock icons. I thought we were talking about custom image icons generated by PS. Anyway my embedded ProPhoto RGB image icons display properly in the finder, certainly not at all like a embedded ProPhoto image that is assigned sRGB. Doyle On Aug 27, 2013, at 7:26 PM, Martin Orpen <martin@idea-digital.com> wrote:
On 27 Aug 2013, at 23:54, Doyle Yoder <doyle@dypinc.com> wrote:
Letting the OS create the icon form the file itself allows for what appears to be proper color managed icons.
Not on a modern Mac :-(
The Finder displays the icon RGB values using the monitor profile.
Just take a look at the Dock on a wide gamut display. The application icons for apps like InDesign CS6 are headache-inducing and unbearable to look at.
As I see it, you've got two options for high-end colour work - avoid the Finder and Dock as much as possible or use a product like BasICColor Display to produce a monitor profile which is constrained using their "Color Space Emulation" feature to a specific working space or device space.
-- Martin Orpen Idea Digital Imaging Ltd
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David Wollmann
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Doyle Yoder
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Martin Orpen
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Steve Upton