Yesterday I got a call from a photographer who's having trouble with a new NEC 24" display and I'm hoping the folks on this list can shed some light on the situation for us. The photographer calibrated the display using the Adobe RGB setting in the Spectra View software, but began noticing that images on the web started to look overly saturated in the Reds, pretty much as if someone had assigned Adobe RGB to an sRGB image. This, of course, had her worrying about whether she has been over compensating for a color shift or somehow had been pushing the Reds too much in her images. NEC's suggestion was just to calibrate the display using the sRGB setting, but that defeats the purpose of having a wider gamut display, doesn't it? For what it's worth I have a Dell display in my studio that has a pretty wide gamut too, (comparable to Adobe RGB), and I've never seen this when viewing images on the web. So I'm feeling a little skeptical that it's just a case of using a wide gamut display to view images on the web. Any suggestions as to what could be the cause of the problem? And even more importantly what the solution might be? Thanks! Dennis Dunbar 310-463-1677 Blog: http://www.dunbardigital.com/blog/blog.php Website: http://www.dunbardigital.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/DennisDunbar
On 17 Oct 2013, at 20:56, Dennis Dunbar <dennis@dunbardigital.com> wrote:
Any suggestions as to what could be the cause of the problem? And even more importantly what the solution might be?
The problem is Mac OS 10.8 and the solution is use an older OS that doesn't use a wide gamut display profile as the Finder's working space. Every colour in the Finder is eye-popping on wide gamut displays apart from the properly colour managed previews when you do Get Info. -- Martin Orpen [sent from a mobile device]
I'd say that if images *on the web* look oversaturated, she's using a browser without (full) color management. Safari is partly color managed: it will (stupidly) assume monitor profile for images without embedded icc profile. Use Firefox wit full color management enabled (not the default setting) and/or embed sRGB profile into webimages. Test page: http://regex.info/blog/photo-tech/color-spaces-page2 HTH, René Damkot www.damkot.com www.getcolormanaged.com On 17-10-13 (w 42) 22:11, Martin Orpen wrote:
On 17 Oct 2013, at 20:56, Dennis Dunbar <dennis@dunbardigital.com> wrote:
Any suggestions as to what could be the cause of the problem? And even more importantly what the solution might be?
The problem is Mac OS 10.8 and the solution is use an older OS that doesn't use a wide gamut display profile as the Finder's working space.
Every colour in the Finder is eye-popping on wide gamut displays apart from the properly colour managed previews when you do Get Info.
On Oct 17, 2013, at 1:56 PM, Dennis Dunbar <dennis@dunbardigital.com> wrote:
NEC's suggestion was just to calibrate the display using the sRGB setting, but that defeats the purpose of having a wider gamut display, doesn't it?
That or use an ICC aware browser like FireFox or Safari. Andrew Rodney http://www.digitaldog.net/
On 17 Oct 2013, at 21:36, Andrew Rodney <andrew@digitaldog.net> wrote:
On Oct 17, 2013, at 1:56 PM, Dennis Dunbar <dennis@dunbardigital.com> wrote:
NEC's suggestion was just to calibrate the display using the sRGB setting, but that defeats the purpose of having a wider gamut display, doesn't it?
That or use an ICC aware browser like FireFox or Safari.
But all the non-profiled elements of the browser window -- untagged images, text and graphics -- display to the full gamut range of the monitor! Apple need to fix this daft *feature* so that users can opt for their own choice of OS working space. -- Martin Orpen Idea Digital Imaging Ltd
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