Subject: PSO Coated v3 separations
Martin, A few questions; What source profile did you attach to the Roman images? Did you use a standard-issue Fogra ICC profile, or one created by another entity? What rendering intent did you use? How closely does your press match the Fogra51 color space? For example, if you print a whole IT8.7/4 (or IT8.7/5) target, what are the average, peak and 95th percentile numbers in dE00? Don ************************** Don Hutcheson President HutchColor, LLC 908-500-0341 don@hutchcolor.com **************************
On Aug 22, 2018, at 15:00 ,Martin Orpen <martin@idea-digital.com <mailto:martin@idea-digital.com>> wrote:
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Is it just me that thinks that FOGRA51 produces inferior separations and unacceptable skin colour?
Just like FOGRA52 we get separations that lack yellow when we need MORE yellow to create an acceptable skin colour.
Who makes the decisions about colour reproduction for these standards?
Have they proofed and printed the BVDM Roman 16 images with the Green and Blue backgrounds?
Did they honestly believe that skin the colour of boiled ham was acceptable?
This causes a lot of problems in pre-press workflows because clients supplying Photoshop CMYK end up with terrible looking images and any that we edit using commercial separation software (that corrects the yellow deficiency) look nothing like the images in the rest of the job.
This wasn’t the case with FOGRA39.
The new standards are producing substandard results :(
-- Martin Orpen Idea Digital Imaging Ltd
On 22 Aug 2018, at 20:23, Don Hutcheson <don@hutchcolor.com> wrote:
What source profile did you attach to the Roman images? Did you use a standard-issue Fogra ICC profile, or one created by another entity? What rendering intent did you use? How closely does your press match the Fogra51 color space? For example, if you print a whole IT8.7/4 (or IT8.7/5) target, what are the average, peak and 95th percentile numbers in dE00?
Hi Don These are images that are being sent to us for proofing — our own, non-Photoshop, conversions print fine. PSO Coated v3 using Relative Colorimetric +BPC gives the photographer an apparently good conversion that looks like it matches the RGB very well… but it prints dark, muddy and magenta on a FOGRA51 contract proof. -- Martin Orpen Idea Digital Imaging Ltd
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