In his posting of Sat, 7 Jun 2014,  writes Gerry Yaeger snip I think trying to convert Mr. Robinson falls under the same category as try to teach a pig to sing. "It wastes the farmers time and pisses off the pig." Yep I agree and it pisses me off when people fail to trim postings adequately < G > Cheers Richard Richard Kenward www.precision-drum-scanning.co.uk