i1Profiler & SpectroProofer Data
It's so easy to create a profile with ProfileMaker. Load the chart, Load the data. Make the profile. With i1Profiler the workflow is a little more complicated: Plug in your i1 Pro2 Stare at the ugly interface. Scan through the complicated mass of crap in the left hand panel that has already accumulated even though you've only made 3 profiles (what's it going to be like when you've made hundreds?) Press at the meaningless icons. Repeatedly drag and drop your data file on the interface without any feedback or success. Look through the useless documentation. Ring the reseller and have them try and sell you a simpler, cheaper, profile making product. Send them the data by email so that they can forward it to the one person at UK X-Rite who knows how the product works. Wait 12 hours. Give up. Anybody here know if you can import SpectroProofer data into i1Profiler and make a simple RGB profile? I gave up and used Argyll -- txt2ti3 and then colprof and the job was done… apart from that lingering feeling that I've wasted my money on i1Profiler. -- Martin Orpen Idea Digital Imaging Ltd
Hi Martin, Sorry about your problem....we reviewed it at our software center and here is a note from one of our testing guys: Just did it with no problem. I downloaded the SpectroProofer Utilities from the Epson site. Printed and measured a target (RGB TC2.18) from the Utility and saved the CGATS data directly into the i1Profiler Measurements folder. Went into the i1Profiler RGB Measurement page and clicked the Load button. Switched from .mxf to CGATS and loaded the file. The CGATS from the SpectroProofer does not contain the Measurement mode or the Cal reference so, you have to pick those. The measurement mode is going to be M0 or M2 depending upon which flavor of SpectroProofer the user has. The Calibration Standard should be GMDI as this device was tuned to the SpectroProofer. The measurements then loaded right in and I made a profile just to make sure the data was good. If you have any further issues let me know directly: tlianza followed by the "at" xrite.com On 9/12/12 3:54 PM, "Martin Orpen" <martin@idea-digital.com> wrote:
It's so easy to create a profile with ProfileMaker.
Load the chart, Load the
data. Make the profile.
With i1Profiler the workflow is a little more
complicated:
Plug in your i1 Pro2 Stare at the ugly interface. Scan through
the complicated mass of crap in the left hand panel that has already accumulated even though you've only made 3 profiles (what's it going to be like when you've made hundreds?)
Press at the meaningless icons. Repeatedly
drag and drop your data file on the interface without any feedback or success.
Look through the useless documentation. Ring the reseller and have
them try and sell you a simpler, cheaper, profile making product.
Send them
the data by email so that they can forward it to the one person at UK X-Rite who knows how the product works.
Wait 12 hours. Give up. Anybody here
know if you can import SpectroProofer data into i1Profiler and make a simple RGB profile? I gave up and used Argyll -- txt2ti3 and then colprof and the job was doneS apart from that lingering feeling that I've wasted my money on i1Profiler.
-- Martin Orpen Idea Digital Imaging Ltd
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On 14 Sep 2012, at 17:50, Thomas Lianza <TLianza@xrite.com> wrote:
Printed and measured a target (RGB TC2.18) from the Utility and saved the CGATS data directly into the i1Profiler Measurements folder.
Went into the i1Profiler RGB Measurement page and clicked the Load button.
Switched from .mxf to CGATS and loaded the file.
The CGATS from the SpectroProofer does not contain the Measurement mode or the Cal reference so, you have to pick those. The measurement mode is going to be M0 or M2 depending upon which flavor of SpectroProofer the user has. The Calibration Standard should be GMDI as this device was tuned to the SpectroProofer.
The measurements then loaded right in and I made a profile just to make sure the data was good.
Tom Thanks for the info. As Marc mentioned earlier, the SpectroProofer data can also be dragged on to the Measurement icon - which is more convenient than locating the relevant folders in the Finder and then importing the data. I am disappointed that the software isn't more intuitive or forthcoming with helpful tips when I'm using it though. It feels as if it has been designed *only* for users who make profiles as a full-time occupation and therefore have the time to experiment with it -- or more likely will be getting paid by their clients while they learn about it on the job… The rest of us need production tools that can be called upon to create profiles quickly in response to major repair work or the complete swap out of faulty inkjet printers or to meet demands for samples printed on unfamiliar media. 48 hours after making enquiries I still haven't had any response from the UK supplier that we bought the X-Rite hardware and software from or from the UK X-Rite tech person that we know that they contacted. Not that I should have needed to contact them in the first place - we should have been able to locate the relevant information from within the software or from a manual or on-line resource. We've been building profiles here forever. On the shelf in front of me is the documentation for every bit of colour management software we've ever used. Scanning along the shelf I can see that I've got more useful and easy-to-understand documentation on the 1999 version of ColorBlind Edit than I have for i1Profiler! -- Martin Orpen Idea Digital Imaging Ltd
Tom, With i1Profiler 1.3.2 (Windows version), the options for importing CGATS measurement data are limited. If the measurements were made with a UV filter, i.e. M2 data, i1Profiler 1.3.2 creates the profiles correctly. If the measurements are unfiltered, M0 data, i1P complains that it "Could not compute white point for condition M0 (UV Included)." This is new behavior with v1.3.2; 1.2.0 did not have such quirks. Manually editing the file to add "Filter=UVCut" to the MEASUREMENT_SOURCE section fools v1.3.2 into being able to make the profile, although with incorrect white point assumptions. Cheers, Ethan Thomas Lianza wrote:
Went into the i1Profiler RGB Measurement page and clicked the Load button.
Switched from .mxf to CGATS and loaded the file.
The CGATS from the SpectroProofer does not contain the Measurement mode or the Cal reference so, you have to pick those. The measurement mode is going to be M0 or M2 depending upon which flavor of SpectroProofer the user has. The Calibration Standard should be GMDI as this device was tuned to the SpectroProofer.
The measurements then loaded right in and I made a profile just to make sure the data was good.
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Ethan Hansen
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Martin Orpen
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