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Re: How do I find the cause when OSX locks up?
by Peter Lovell 06 Mar '05

06 Mar '05

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com On Mar 4, 2005, at 8:13 AM, Anton Kuzmin wrote: Anton have you tried disabling crashreporter? /etc/hostconfig Regards.....Peter _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… It does not seem to be a problem with lookupd (or at least it's not just lookupd on it's own). Normally, when lookupd locks up, the UI remains responsive, but in this case the whole UI (except the mouse cursor) locks up as well - as if the window server hung up. But seems to be somewhere deeper in the system, as it looks that every other process hangs up too. But not the kernel itself - as I can ping this computer and establish tcp connections. sounds like you're running into the lookupd lock-up problem. Google for more info. :) I'm experiencing a very strange problem on 10.3.8 with one of our own proxies (smtp/pop3 proxy) - from time to time (once or twice a day), the whole system locks up - I can move the mouse cursor, but everything else becomes completely unresponsive, all applications(even daemons) freeze, but I can ping this computer while it's locked up, and if I try to connect to any standard service (like ftp or ssh) - the tcp connection can be established instantly but no data is ever received by the client (i.e. ftp server prompt). I've tried to run a simple script on this computer that logs top and zprint output every second into a file, and the data from the script shows no apparent anomalies in memory usage just before the computer locks up. Sometimes it unlocks itself after a random amount of time (can be from 20 seconds to a few hours) in which case the top output shows crazy cpu usage percentages for different processes, which total at up to 700-1000% (which could be just a problem with top getting confused by the lock up). Are there any other monitoring utilities except top and zprint that I can use to figure out what's going on? I tried the same configuration on another computer and it's the same problem again, which, I think, rules out possible hardware problems. Any insight on what other resources(or lack thereof) can cause this behavior and how to monitor them would be very helpful. You said that you can ping it while the system is unresponsive, but can you connect via ssh? If not, try to keep an established connection via ssh from another system, and then test with that when the lockup occurs. I would suspect that the system or UI server is being starved of resources somewhere. Not memory, but maybe sockets, mbufs or some other network-type resource. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Problems building libc on OSX 10.3
by Sean McBride 05 Mar '05

05 Mar '05

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com Gideon King (novasoft(a)mac.com) on 2005-03-05 08:48 said: >Hi, I have an application that needs to run on 10.2, and has a library >included which uses wchar, which is not in the 10.2 system dylib (it You could use Metrowerks CodeWarrior to build your code, its MSL C library has wchar stuff. -- "None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free." - Goethe _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Problems building libc on OSX 10.3
by Paul Forgey 05 Mar '05

05 Mar '05

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com There's all sorts of reasons to not do that. Don't do it. Three options I would do in your situation: On Mar 5, 2005, at 5:48 AM, Gideon King wrote: I'm after either: - tips on how to get it to compile, or - a pre-build ppc libc.a that I can link against. Thanks Gideon King novasoft(a)mac.com _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/paulf%40aphrodite.com _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… - pick out the needed wchar routines from the newer libc and incorporate them into my program if it doesn't violate the source license. - find a generic wchar add-on library somewhere. I'd be surprised if one didn't exist, but I don't know. - redesign my program to work in a degraded mode on systems which don't give me wchar. Hi, I have an application that needs to run on 10.2, and has a library included which uses wchar, which is not in the 10.2 system dylib (it was added in 10.3). It appears that the simplest way around this would be to grab the latest darwin libc and build a static library and link against that with my application (please correct me if there is a simpler/better way). So I grabbed Libc-320.1.3 which appears to be the latest version, and tried a simple make (on 10.3). This failed - the last few lines are included below. Are there some dependencies that mean that I need to build/install something else first? In file included from /Users/gideon/Desktop/Libc-320.1.3/pthreads/pthread_internals.h:71, from /Users/gideon/Desktop/Libc-320.1.3/gen/malloc.c:24: /Users/gideon/Desktop/Libc-320.1.3/pthreads/pthread_spinlock.h:57:38: machine/cpu_capabilities.h: No such file or directory In file included from /Users/gideon/Desktop/Libc-320.1.3/gen/stack_logging.h:24, from /Users/gideon/Desktop/Libc-320.1.3/gen/malloc.c:36: /Users/gideon/Desktop/Libc-320.1.3/include/objc/malloc.h:24:2: warning: #warning "Use <malloc/malloc.h> instead of <objc/malloc.h>" cc -static -arch ppc -faltivec -DALTIVEC -DNOID -I/Users/gideon/Desktop/Libc-320.1.3/include -I/Users/gideon/Desktop/Libc-320.1.3/include/objc -I/System/Library/Frameworks/System.framework/PrivateHeaders -DLIBC_MAJOR=1 -no-cpp-precomp -force_cpusubtype_ALL -arch ppc -fno-common -pipe -Wmost -g -finline-limit=5000 -D__FBSDID=__RCSID -Wno-long-double -D__APPLE_PR3275149_HACK__ -D__DBINTERFACE_PRIVATE -I/Users/gideon/Desktop/Libc-320.1.3/db/btree -I/Users/gideon/Desktop/Libc-320.1.3/gdtoa -I/Users/gideon/Desktop/Libc-320.1.3/pthreads -D__APPLE_PR_3333969_HACK__ -DINET6 -I/Users/gideon/Desktop/Libc-320.1.3/./obj.ppc -DPOSIX_MISTAKE -DHEXFLOAT -DNOTIFY_TZ -I/Users/gideon/Desktop/Libc-320.1.3/locale -D__APPLE_PR3375657_HACK__ -DYP -DHESIOD -Os -c /Users/gideon/Desktop/Libc-320.1.3/gen/nlist.c -o nlist.o /Users/gideon/Desktop/Libc-320.1.3/gen/nlist.c:216:2: warning: #warning Use the cpusubtype functions!!! cc -static -arch ppc -faltivec -DALTIVEC -DNOID -I/Users/gideon/Desktop/Libc-320.1.3/include -I/Users/gideon/Desktop/Libc-320.1.3/include/objc -I/System/Library/Frameworks/System.framework/PrivateHeaders -DLIBC_MAJOR=1 -no-cpp-precomp -force_cpusubtype_ALL -arch ppc -fno-common -pipe -Wmost -g -finline-limit=5000 -D__FBSDID=__RCSID -Wno-long-double -D__APPLE_PR3275149_HACK__ -D__DBINTERFACE_PRIVATE -I/Users/gideon/Desktop/Libc-320.1.3/db/btree -I/Users/gideon/Desktop/Libc-320.1.3/gdtoa -I/Users/gideon/Desktop/Libc-320.1.3/pthreads -D__APPLE_PR_3333969_HACK__ -DINET6 -I/Users/gideon/Desktop/Libc-320.1.3/./obj.ppc -DPOSIX_MISTAKE -DHEXFLOAT -DNOTIFY_TZ -I/Users/gideon/Desktop/Libc-320.1.3/locale -D__APPLE_PR3375657_HACK__ -DYP -DHESIOD -Os -c /Users/gideon/Desktop/Libc-320.1.3/gen/scalable_malloc.c -o scalable_malloc.o In file included from /Users/gideon/Desktop/Libc-320.1.3/pthreads/pthread_internals.h:71, from /Users/gideon/Desktop/Libc-320.1.3/gen/scalable_malloc.c:28: /Users/gideon/Desktop/Libc-320.1.3/pthreads/pthread_spinlock.h:57:38: machine/cpu_capabilities.h: No such file or directory /Users/gideon/Desktop/Libc-320.1.3/gen/malloc.c:794:2: warning: #warning PHASE OUT THE FOLLOWING FUNCTIONS *** Error code 1 *** Error code 1 2 errors make: *** [build-ppc-static] Error 2 This email sent to paulf(a)aphrodite.com This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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netstat: kvm_read: Bad address
by David Osguthorpe 05 Mar '05

05 Mar '05

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com User-agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Hi, Has anybody else seen this error trying to run netstat -rn: netstat: kvm_read: Bad address (in infinite loop) This occurs on an XServe G5 at some random interval - only solution seems to be to reboot the system - otherwise network access seems OK David _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Problems building libc on OSX 10.3
by Gideon King 05 Mar '05

05 Mar '05

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com I'm after either: - tips on how to get it to compile, or - a pre-build ppc libc.a that I can link against. Thanks Gideon King novasoft(a)mac.com _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… Hi, I have an application that needs to run on 10.2, and has a library included which uses wchar, which is not in the 10.2 system dylib (it was added in 10.3). It appears that the simplest way around this would be to grab the latest darwin libc and build a static library and link against that with my application (please correct me if there is a simpler/better way). So I grabbed Libc-320.1.3 which appears to be the latest version, and tried a simple make (on 10.3). This failed - the last few lines are included below. Are there some dependencies that mean that I need to build/install something else first? In file included from /Users/gideon/Desktop/Libc-320.1.3/pthreads/pthread_internals.h:71, from /Users/gideon/Desktop/Libc-320.1.3/gen/malloc.c:24: /Users/gideon/Desktop/Libc-320.1.3/pthreads/pthread_spinlock.h:57:38: machine/cpu_capabilities.h: No such file or directory In file included from /Users/gideon/Desktop/Libc-320.1.3/gen/stack_logging.h:24, from /Users/gideon/Desktop/Libc-320.1.3/gen/malloc.c:36: /Users/gideon/Desktop/Libc-320.1.3/include/objc/malloc.h:24:2: warning: #warning "Use <malloc/malloc.h> instead of <objc/malloc.h>" cc -static -arch ppc -faltivec -DALTIVEC -DNOID -I/Users/gideon/Desktop/Libc-320.1.3/include -I/Users/gideon/Desktop/Libc-320.1.3/include/objc -I/System/Library/Frameworks/System.framework/PrivateHeaders -DLIBC_MAJOR=1 -no-cpp-precomp -force_cpusubtype_ALL -arch ppc -fno-common -pipe -Wmost -g -finline-limit=5000 -D__FBSDID=__RCSID -Wno-long-double -D__APPLE_PR3275149_HACK__ -D__DBINTERFACE_PRIVATE -I/Users/gideon/Desktop/Libc-320.1.3/db/btree -I/Users/gideon/Desktop/Libc-320.1.3/gdtoa -I/Users/gideon/Desktop/Libc-320.1.3/pthreads -D__APPLE_PR_3333969_HACK__ -DINET6 -I/Users/gideon/Desktop/Libc-320.1.3/./obj.ppc -DPOSIX_MISTAKE -DHEXFLOAT -DNOTIFY_TZ -I/Users/gideon/Desktop/Libc-320.1.3/locale -D__APPLE_PR3375657_HACK__ -DYP -DHESIOD -Os -c /Users/gideon/Desktop/Libc-320.1.3/gen/nlist.c -o nlist.o /Users/gideon/Desktop/Libc-320.1.3/gen/nlist.c:216:2: warning: #warning Use the cpusubtype functions!!! cc -static -arch ppc -faltivec -DALTIVEC -DNOID -I/Users/gideon/Desktop/Libc-320.1.3/include -I/Users/gideon/Desktop/Libc-320.1.3/include/objc -I/System/Library/Frameworks/System.framework/PrivateHeaders -DLIBC_MAJOR=1 -no-cpp-precomp -force_cpusubtype_ALL -arch ppc -fno-common -pipe -Wmost -g -finline-limit=5000 -D__FBSDID=__RCSID -Wno-long-double -D__APPLE_PR3275149_HACK__ -D__DBINTERFACE_PRIVATE -I/Users/gideon/Desktop/Libc-320.1.3/db/btree -I/Users/gideon/Desktop/Libc-320.1.3/gdtoa -I/Users/gideon/Desktop/Libc-320.1.3/pthreads -D__APPLE_PR_3333969_HACK__ -DINET6 -I/Users/gideon/Desktop/Libc-320.1.3/./obj.ppc -DPOSIX_MISTAKE -DHEXFLOAT -DNOTIFY_TZ -I/Users/gideon/Desktop/Libc-320.1.3/locale -D__APPLE_PR3375657_HACK__ -DYP -DHESIOD -Os -c /Users/gideon/Desktop/Libc-320.1.3/gen/scalable_malloc.c -o scalable_malloc.o In file included from /Users/gideon/Desktop/Libc-320.1.3/pthreads/pthread_internals.h:71, from /Users/gideon/Desktop/Libc-320.1.3/gen/scalable_malloc.c:28: /Users/gideon/Desktop/Libc-320.1.3/pthreads/pthread_spinlock.h:57:38: machine/cpu_capabilities.h: No such file or directory /Users/gideon/Desktop/Libc-320.1.3/gen/malloc.c:794:2: warning: #warning PHASE OUT THE FOLLOWING FUNCTIONS *** Error code 1 *** Error code 1 2 errors make: *** [build-ppc-static] Error 2 This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: kernel panics and nvram issues
by Sam Vaughan 04 Mar '05

04 Mar '05

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com On 05/03/2005, at 7:05 AM, Shantonu Sen <ssen(a)opendarwin.org> wrote: Sam ("`-''-/").___..--''"`-._ Sam Vaughan `6_ 6 ) `-. ( ).`-.__.`) (_Y_.)' ._ ) `._ `. ``-..-' samvaughan(a)mac.com _..`--'_..-_/ /--'_.' ,' __________________________(il),-'' (li),' ((!.-' _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… b) If you've got Panther on another disk or partition (possibly on a FireWire external disk), boot that, run the nvram command, then shut down and reboot into Tiger. This will unfortunately not quite work. When you use Startup Disk to switch your boot device, the "boot-args" variable is erased (in order to prevent stray things like NetBoot rp= arguments from messing up your next boot). If you want to do this, use Startup Disk, quit System Preferences, when open Terminal and use nvram, and then reboot. Don't do it in the opposite order. True, the Startup Disk control panel will clear the boot-args variable, but if you use the Option key on boot to choose a different startup disk, the boot-args setting will survive the switch. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: StartupItems and Tiger...
by Ernest Prabhakar 04 Mar '05

04 Mar '05

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com Hi Kevin, -- Ernie P. _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… While I appreciate your frustration, Tiger is still under NDA, and thus not an appropriate topic for this publlc mailing list. Contact me offline, and I'll see if I can point you in the right direction. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ----------------- Ernest N. Prabhakar, Ph.D. (408) 974-3075 <ernest at apple.com> Product Manager, UNIX & Open Source, System Software Marketing Apple Computer; 303-4SW 3 Infinite Loop; Cupertino, CA 95014 This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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StartupItems and Tiger...
by Kevin Elliott 04 Mar '05

04 Mar '05

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com Greetings, Does anyone know what else could be going wrong? -- ______________________________________________________ Arguing with an engineer is like wrestling with a pig in mud. After a while, you realize the pig is enjoying it. ______________________________________________________ Kevin Elliott <mailto:kelliott@mac.com> AIM/iChatAV: kelliott(a)mac.com (video chat available) ______________________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… I've been doing some testing on Tiger and for some reason my StartupItems are no longer loading. I've poked around a bit, but haven't been able to find any clear information about what's changed/changing. I ran across this link: <http://lists.apple.com/archives/coreaudio-api/2004/Nov/msg00215.html> claiming that privileges had been tightened up (and it's about time!), but that didn't solve my problem. Also, this message claims that all files need to be set to 755. I'd followed apple's lead, and set the binary to 755 and the StaartupParameters file to 644 (everything root:wheel of course). Is that now wrong? This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: applesingle for > 2GB ; ._ files ; rsync
by Shantonu Sen 04 Mar '05

04 Mar '05

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com Shantonu _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… On Mar 3, 2005, at 4:53 PM, Dave Yost wrote: I'm putting together a spec for an extended rsync, which I will float here. I wonder if the Tiger rsync will satisfy it. A better question would be, perhaps, will your spec satisfy Tiger's rsync, since millions of people will be running the Apple-provided rsync. The best way to know for sure is to file bugs with Apple with the specification and the benefits to Apple and its customers in satisfying it. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: How do I find the cause when OSX locks up?
by Anton Kuzmin 04 Mar '05

04 Mar '05

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com User-agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) Anton have you tried disabling crashreporter? /etc/hostconfig _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… It does not seem to be a problem with lookupd (or at least it's not just lookupd on it's own). Normally, when lookupd locks up, the UI remains responsive, but in this case the whole UI (except the mouse cursor) locks up as well - as if the window server hung up. But seems to be somewhere deeper in the system, as it looks that every other process hangs up too. But not the kernel itself - as I can ping this computer and establish tcp connections. sounds like you're running into the lookupd lock-up problem. Google for more info. :) I'm experiencing a very strange problem on 10.3.8 with one of our own proxies (smtp/pop3 proxy) - from time to time (once or twice a day), the whole system locks up - I can move the mouse cursor, but everything else becomes completely unresponsive, all applications(even daemons) freeze, but I can ping this computer while it's locked up, and if I try to connect to any standard service (like ftp or ssh) - the tcp connection can be established instantly but no data is ever received by the client (i.e. ftp server prompt). I've tried to run a simple script on this computer that logs top and zprint output every second into a file, and the data from the script shows no apparent anomalies in memory usage just before the computer locks up. Sometimes it unlocks itself after a random amount of time (can be from 20 seconds to a few hours) in which case the top output shows crazy cpu usage percentages for different processes, which total at up to 700-1000% (which could be just a problem with top getting confused by the lock up). Are there any other monitoring utilities except top and zprint that I can use to figure out what's going on? I tried the same configuration on another computer and it's the same problem again, which, I think, rules out possible hardware problems. Any insight on what other resources(or lack thereof) can cause this behavior and how to monitor them would be very helpful. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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