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Re: Looking for ditto source code
by Kevin Van Vechten 17 May '05

17 May '05

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com - Kevin On May 17, 2005, at 3:17 PM, colley wrote: Am 17.05.2005 um 18:41 schrieb colley: This is expected if "your" volume isn't fork-aware. If "your" volume indeed isn't capable of storing forks, anything else would be a bug. We are fork aware. Our volume work fine with the Finder and all other applications, _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… The AppleDouble file format specifies more than just a resource fork. In fact, there might not be any resource fork at all in the ._ file. Other contents can include FinderInfo, Access Control Lists (ACLs), and Extended Attributes (EAs). In Tiger, I believe ._ files will be more prevalent due to ACLs and EAs, especially on network filesystems. On 5/17/05 2:40 PM, "Markus Hitter" <mah(a)jump-ing.de> wrote: The customer is doing a "ditto -rsrc" from a local volume to one of our volumes. Ditto is creating a ._Filename on our volume. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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brain fade
by Peter Lovell 17 May '05

17 May '05

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com Is there a file-to-project mapping or did I just dream it?? Thanks.....Peter _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… Hi folks, I guess it's brain-fade but I can't remember the way to find files within the darwin projects (for example, on <http://www.opensource.apple.com/darwinsource/10.4/> ) There used to be a way to browse for specific files but I can't find (or remember) it. The ones I'm actually looking for are for uuid stuff (the regular BSD ones). This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Looking for ditto source code
by colley 17 May '05

17 May '05

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com User-agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.1.0.040913 On 5/17/05 2:40 PM, "Markus Hitter" <mah(a)jump-ing.de> wrote: > > Am 17.05.2005 um 18:41 schrieb colley: > >> The customer is doing a "ditto -rsrc" from a local volume to one of our >> volumes. Ditto is creating a ._Filename on our volume. > > This is expected if "your" volume isn't fork-aware. If "your" volume > indeed isn't capable of storing forks, anything else would be a bug. > We are fork aware. Our volume work fine with the Finder and all other applications, >> I was hoping to look at the code and figure out what ditto is looking >> at to make this decision. > > It's a guess, but I'd expect ditto to use CoreFoundation and/or Carbon > to do the job, just like I'd expect the Finder to do it. > > > HTH, > Markus > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > Dipl. Ing. Markus Hitter > http://www.jump-ing.de/ > > > > _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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launchd Q&A on irc.freenode.net
by Dave Zarzycki 17 May '05

17 May '05

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com Date: 5/25/2005 Time: 4pm PDT till when I go to bed Channel: #launchd Network: irc.freenode.net Why am I doing this? I've been tasked to write a HOWTO/FAQ for launchd. See ya then, davez _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… Now, as the guy who wrote launchd, I'm the best and worst person to write such a document. That's why I need your help. Feel free to come and hang out and I'll try and answer as many questions as I can. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Looking for ditto source code
by Markus Hitter 17 May '05

17 May '05

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com Am 17.05.2005 um 18:41 schrieb colley: The customer is doing a "ditto -rsrc" from a local volume to one of our volumes. Ditto is creating a ._Filename on our volume. HTH, Markus - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dipl. Ing. Markus Hitter http://www.jump-ing.de/ _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… This is expected if "your" volume isn't fork-aware. If "your" volume indeed isn't capable of storing forks, anything else would be a bug. I was hoping to look at the code and figure out what ditto is looking at to make this decision. It's a guess, but I'd expect ditto to use CoreFoundation and/or Carbon to do the job, just like I'd expect the Finder to do it. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Looking for ditto source code
by Boyd Waters 17 May '05

17 May '05

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com On May 17, 2005, at 10:41 AM, colley wrote: go Dave! ;-) That behaviour is AppleDouble, right? ~ boyd Boyd Waters recovering Mac-WinNT sysadmin _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… I was trying to track down a bug report with our product and ditto. We make a product that allows uses to mount a Microsoft volume on their desktop. Our code understands the Microsoft streams format. So when items with resource forks get copied no ",_" files get created. The customer is doing a "ditto -rsrc" from a local volume to one of our volumes. Ditto is creating a ._Filename on our volume. I was hoping to look at the code and figure out what ditto is looking at to make this decision . I think that the *darwin* source for rsync_hfs includes this resource fork functionality. See also http://www.quesera.com/reynhout/misc/rsync+hfsmode/ This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Looking for ditto source code
by colley 17 May '05

17 May '05

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com User-agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.1.0.040913 I was trying to track down a bug report with our product and ditto. We make a product that allows uses to mount a Microsoft volume on their desktop. Our code understands the Microsoft streams format. So when items with resource forks get copied no ",_" files get created. The customer is doing a "ditto -rsrc" from a local volume to one of our volumes. Ditto is creating a ._Filename on our volume. I was hoping to look at the code and figure out what ditto is looking at to make this decision . George On 5/17/05 10:56 AM, "Shantonu Sen" <ssen(a)opendarwin.org> wrote: > What functionality do you need that is not in the Tiger source for > tar or pax or rsync? > > Shantonu > > On May 17, 2005, at 8:05 AM, Justin Walker wrote: > >> >> On May 17, 2005, at 8:02, colley wrote: >> >> >>> Is the ditto source code open source? If so does anyone know where >>> I could >>> find it? >>> >> >> 'ditto' is not open source. >> >> Regards, >> >> Justin >> >> -- >> Justin C. Walker, Curmudgeon-At-Large >> Institute for General Semantics >> -------- >> If you're not confused, >> You're not paying attention >> -------- >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >> Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) >> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >> http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/ssen% >> 40opendarwin.org >> >> This email sent to ssen(a)opendarwin.org >> > > _______________________________________________ > Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. > Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) > Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: > http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/colley%40thursby.com > > This email sent to colley(a)thursby.com > _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: CyrusImap-156 project
by Shantonu Sen 17 May '05

17 May '05

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com "Apple", why? Shantonu On May 17, 2005, at 8:49 AM, Dale Walsh wrote: Who is in charge of this project? This email sent to ssen(a)opendarwin.org _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… -- Dale _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/ssen% 40opendarwin.org This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Looking for ditto source code
by Shantonu Sen 17 May '05

17 May '05

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com Shantonu On May 17, 2005, at 8:05 AM, Justin Walker wrote: On May 17, 2005, at 8:02, colley wrote: 'ditto' is not open source. Regards, Justin -- Justin C. Walker, Curmudgeon-At-Large Institute for General Semantics -------- If you're not confused, You're not paying attention -------- This email sent to ssen(a)opendarwin.org _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… What functionality do you need that is not in the Tiger source for tar or pax or rsync? Is the ditto source code open source? If so does anyone know where I could find it? _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/ssen% 40opendarwin.org This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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CyrusImap-156 project
by Dale Walsh 17 May '05

17 May '05

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com Mta-interface: amavisd-new-2.3.1-rc3-E (2005-05-06) at daleenterprise.com Who is in charge of this project? -- Dale _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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