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Re: Darwin on L4
by Nick Lauland 31 Mar '06

31 Mar '06

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com Yeah, that's what the demo of the driver level does...so don't run it. On Mar 31, 2006, at 1:41 PM, David Leimbach wrote: For a good demo cd of the potential of L4, take a look at http://demo.tudos.org/ Yeah that's the one that uses FreeBSD's ATA drivers in userspace processes to wipe your disk (if you boot it with --readonly removed). Dave On Mar 31, 2006, at 11:02 AM, Michael L Torrie wrote: Michael Andre On 31-Mar-06, at 02:03 , Tom Birch wrote: Any feedback or questions are welcome. Tom _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/ajmas% 40sympatico.ca _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/torriem% 40chem.byu.edu This email sent to torriem(a)chem.byu.edu Nick Lauland University of Texas at Austin Desktop Support Consultant Liberal Arts Onsite Support ITS User Services email: n.lauland(a)its.utexas.edu pager: numeric 606-3968 (on campus dial 9 first) or email lauland(a)my2way.com voice: (512) 475-9429 _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/leimy2k%40gmail.com This email sent to leimy2k(a)gmail.com Nick Lauland University of Texas at Austin Desktop Support Consultant Liberal Arts Onsite Support ITS User Services email: n.lauland(a)its.utexas.edu pager: numeric 606-3968 (on campus dial 9 first) or email lauland(a)my2way.com voice: (512) 475-9429 _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… On 3/31/06, Nick Lauland <laulandne(a)mac.com> wrote: On Fri, 2006-03-31 at 08:26 -0500, André-John Mas wrote: Out of curosity, what advantages does the L4 Microkernel provide over the current one? I'm not sure about the practical value, but L4 can host darwin, linux, and other "personalities" simultaneously. Very cool. The web page indicates this is mainly a research project looking into large-scale microkernel architecture issues. In some ways L4 is looked at as the successor to Mach, at least in the research context. Whether any of this will be directly useful to darwin users (today) is kind of besides the point. Down the road, though, this kind of research will yield some very impressive and cool systems for the next generation of operating systems. We've been working on porting Darwin (currently working with the 8.2 source base) to the L4 Microkernel for a while, and now we've just made a release. The complete source is available, as well as a QEMU boot image, and instructions for booting on real hardware. See http://www.ertos.nicta.com.au/software/darbat/ for more details. This email sent to ajmas(a)sympatico.ca _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/laulandne% 40mac.com This email sent to laulandne(a)mac.com This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Darwin on L4
by David Leimbach 31 Mar '06

31 Mar '06

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com Domainkey-signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=gFjDevIbp4Gfkae/v2hTVnLn2FNy1tS209X7BCjIosuszwYbjZDlluFPAi6ziEGwDg07IaxEX+4ck/al6BrtcJ5erV0lCNeqBDiNXHU3LPSOn4vuxcZ6clQjCyPp4J/dlfIztKr2ns31Q2V2+uEh4aVoysmLWBaMTrVOrlT88+I= On 3/31/06, Nick Lauland <laulandne(a)mac.com> wrote: > For a good demo cd of the potential of L4, take a look at > http://demo.tudos.org/ Yeah that's the one that uses FreeBSD's ATA drivers in userspace processes to wipe your disk (if you boot it with --readonly removed). Dave > > On Mar 31, 2006, at 11:02 AM, Michael L Torrie wrote: > > > On Fri, 2006-03-31 at 08:26 -0500, André-John Mas wrote: > >> Out of curosity, what advantages does the L4 Microkernel provide over > >> the current one? > > > > I'm not sure about the practical value, but L4 can host darwin, linux, > > and other "personalities" simultaneously. Very cool. The web page > > indicates this is mainly a research project looking into large-scale > > microkernel architecture issues. In some ways L4 is looked at as the > > successor to Mach, at least in the research context. Whether any of > > this will be directly useful to darwin users (today) is kind of > > besides > > the point. Down the road, though, this kind of research will yield > > some > > very impressive and cool systems for the next generation of operating > > systems. > > > > Michael > > > > > >> > >> Andre > >> > >> On 31-Mar-06, at 02:03 , Tom Birch wrote: > >> > >>> We've been working on porting Darwin (currently working with the > >>> 8.2 source base) to the L4 Microkernel for a while, and now we've > >>> just made a release. The complete source is available, as well as a > >>> QEMU boot image, and instructions for booting on real hardware. See > >>> http://www.ertos.nicta.com.au/software/darbat/ for more details. > >>> > >>> Any feedback or questions are welcome. > >>> > >>> Tom > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. > >>> Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) > >>> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: > >>> http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/ajmas% > >>> 40sympatico.ca > >>> > >>> This email sent to ajmas(a)sympatico.ca > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. > >> Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) > >> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: > >> http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/torriem% > >> 40chem.byu.edu > >> > >> This email sent to torriem(a)chem.byu.edu > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. > > Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) > > Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: > > http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/laulandne%40mac.com > > > > This email sent to laulandne(a)mac.com > > > Nick Lauland > University of Texas at Austin > Desktop Support Consultant > Liberal Arts Onsite Support > ITS User Services > > email: n.lauland(a)its.utexas.edu > pager: numeric 606-3968 (on campus dial 9 first) > or email lauland(a)my2way.com > voice: (512) 475-9429 > > > _______________________________________________ > Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. > Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) > Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: > http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/leimy2k%40gmail.com > > This email sent to leimy2k(a)gmail.com > _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Darwin on L4
by Nick Lauland 31 Mar '06

31 Mar '06

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com For a good demo cd of the potential of L4, take a look at http://demo.tudos.org/ On Mar 31, 2006, at 11:02 AM, Michael L Torrie wrote: Out of curosity, what advantages does the L4 Microkernel provide over the current one? Michael Andre On 31-Mar-06, at 02:03 , Tom Birch wrote: We've been working on porting Darwin (currently working with the 8.2 source base) to the L4 Microkernel for a while, and now we've just made a release. The complete source is available, as well as a QEMU boot image, and instructions for booting on real hardware. See http://www.ertos.nicta.com.au/software/darbat/ for more details. Any feedback or questions are welcome. This email sent to torriem(a)chem.byu.edu _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/laulandne%40mac.com Nick Lauland University of Texas at Austin Desktop Support Consultant Liberal Arts Onsite Support ITS User Services email: n.lauland(a)its.utexas.edu pager: numeric 606-3968 (on campus dial 9 first) or email lauland(a)my2way.com voice: (512) 475-9429 _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… On Fri, 2006-03-31 at 08:26 -0500, André-John Mas wrote: I'm not sure about the practical value, but L4 can host darwin, linux, and other "personalities" simultaneously. Very cool. The web page indicates this is mainly a research project looking into large-scale microkernel architecture issues. In some ways L4 is looked at as the successor to Mach, at least in the research context. Whether any of this will be directly useful to darwin users (today) is kind of besides the point. Down the road, though, this kind of research will yield some very impressive and cool systems for the next generation of operating systems. Tom _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/ajmas% 40sympatico.ca This email sent to ajmas(a)sympatico.ca _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/torriem% 40chem.byu.edu This email sent to laulandne(a)mac.com This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Darwin on L4
by Michael L Torrie 31 Mar '06

31 Mar '06

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com On Fri, 2006-03-31 at 08:26 -0500, André-John Mas wrote: > Out of curosity, what advantages does the L4 Microkernel provide over > the current one? I'm not sure about the practical value, but L4 can host darwin, linux, and other "personalities" simultaneously. Very cool. The web page indicates this is mainly a research project looking into large-scale microkernel architecture issues. In some ways L4 is looked at as the successor to Mach, at least in the research context. Whether any of this will be directly useful to darwin users (today) is kind of besides the point. Down the road, though, this kind of research will yield some very impressive and cool systems for the next generation of operating systems. Michael > > Andre > > On 31-Mar-06, at 02:03 , Tom Birch wrote: > > > We've been working on porting Darwin (currently working with the > > 8.2 source base) to the L4 Microkernel for a while, and now we've > > just made a release. The complete source is available, as well as a > > QEMU boot image, and instructions for booting on real hardware. See > > http://www.ertos.nicta.com.au/software/darbat/ for more details. > > > > Any feedback or questions are welcome. > > > > Tom > > _______________________________________________ > > Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. > > Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) > > Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: > > http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/ajmas%40sympatico.ca > > > > This email sent to ajmas(a)sympatico.ca > > _______________________________________________ > Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. > Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) > Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: > http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/torriem%40chem.byu.edu > > This email sent to torriem(a)chem.byu.edu > _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Darwin on L4
by André-John Mas 31 Mar '06

31 Mar '06

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com Andre On 31-Mar-06, at 02:03 , Tom Birch wrote: Any feedback or questions are welcome. Tom _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/ajmas%40sympatico.ca _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… Out of curosity, what advantages does the L4 Microkernel provide over the current one? We've been working on porting Darwin (currently working with the 8.2 source base) to the L4 Microkernel for a while, and now we've just made a release. The complete source is available, as well as a QEMU boot image, and instructions for booting on real hardware. See http://www.ertos.nicta.com.au/software/darbat/ for more details. This email sent to ajmas(a)sympatico.ca This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Darwin on L4
by Tom Birch 31 Mar '06

31 Mar '06

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com Any feedback or questions are welcome. Tom _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… We've been working on porting Darwin (currently working with the 8.2 source base) to the L4 Microkernel for a while, and now we've just made a release. The complete source is available, as well as a QEMU boot image, and instructions for booting on real hardware. See http:// www.ertos.nicta.com.au/software/darbat/ for more details. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: compiling problem
by Steve Checkoway 29 Mar '06

29 Mar '06

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RE: compiling problem
by anil kumar dahiya 29 Mar '06

29 Mar '06

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RE: compiling problem
by Kenny Millar 29 Mar '06

29 Mar '06

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compiling problem
by anil kumar dahiya 29 Mar '06

29 Mar '06

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