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Re: Cancel Sleep
by Matt Burnett 31 Jan '08

31 Jan '08

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Re: Darwin 8.11 and 9.1 Source
by William Siegrist 31 Jan '08

31 Jan '08

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com AppleRAID-3.0.19 IOI2CFamily-111.0.2 JavaScriptCore-5523.10.3 dyld-46.16 msdosfs-135 objc4-371 Thank you for your patience. -Bill On Jan 26, 2008, at 3:47 PM, William Siegrist wrote: http://www.opensource.apple.com/darwinsource/10.4.11.ppc/ http://www.opensource.apple.com/darwinsource/10.4.11.x86/ http://www.opensource.apple.com/darwinsource/10.5.1/ ---- William Siegrist wsiegrist(a)apple.com ---- William Siegrist Software Support Engineer Mac OS Forge http://macosforge.org/ wsiegrist(a)apple.com 408 862 7337 _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com The following projects have been posted to http://www.opensource.apple.com : We're still working on a few projects and we'll post those when they are ready. The Darwin team is pleased to announce the availability of the source code for Darwin 8.11 and 9.1. These sources correspond to Mac OS X 10.4.11 and 10.5.1 respectively, for both PowerPC- and Intel-based Macintoshes. The sources are available at: _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/wsiegrist %40apple.com This email sent to wsiegrist(a)apple.com smime.p7s

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Re: Cancel Sleep
by Michael Smith 31 Jan '08

31 Jan '08

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com On Jan 30, 2008, at 12:03 PM, darwin-dev-request(a)lists.apple.com wrote: What happens if you start a file copy to/from a server in Finder and then put the machine to sleep? I hope it either warns the user or completes the copy before sleeping. If the user performs the "normal" sleep sequence for a laptop: - closes the lid - removes the network cable, power cable, etc. - places the laptop into a laptop bag I defy you to find a means of either a) warning the user b) completing the copy = Mike _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… that does not violate other user preferences (speech off, sound off, no bluetooth, inbuilt taser disabled, etc.) An earlier poster cited Raskin's policy of "forgiveness", but made the common mistake of assuming that being forgiving means doing what a singular individual (in this case, the poster) wants, rather than picking a policy that does the least harm in a wide range of situations. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: screen clobbers PATH
by Juan Manuel Palacios 31 Jan '08

31 Jan '08

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com On Jan 30, 2008, at 4:59 PM, Martin Costabel wrote: It is definitely /usr/bin/screen that is clobbering PATH. Regards,... -jmpp -- Martin _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/jmpalaciosp%40eml.cc _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… Peter Seebach wrote: In message <484969.75807.qm(a)web83407.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>, David Mackler writes: Hmmm. No screen installed by fink. David, do you perhaps have the Fink "source /sw/bin/init.sh" startup command in your ~/.bashrc script? This non-standard placement would explain that you get the Fink PATH components when you run "screen $SHELL", because then you would get them in any shell, regardless of the environment it runs in. The most common problem I've had with PATH getting clobbered has involved system profile/startup scripts clobbering PATH, and the shell happening to trigger this. Look also at /usr/libexec/path_helper. Thanks for guessing, but none of these explains the behavior I am seeing. The path_helper script would additionally place /usr/local/ bin and /usr/X11/bin on the PATH, which I am not getting. I also put tracers in all the shell startup scripts, and I see that the only ones that are executed are /etc/csh.cshrc and ~/.tcshrc (I have tcsh as login shell). In none of these scripts there is anything influencing PATH. I am setting my PATH in scripts run from / etc/csh.login. I even created a new account with bash as login shell, and I am seeing the exact same behavior; this time it is only ~/.bashrc that is executed. I can't believe I am the only one seeing this. I have seen this on every machine running Leopard I have looked at and on every account I have created or could get my fingers on. I don't have a solution to the problem, but at least a few words of comfort telling you that I'm also experiencing the exact same problem: Tiger's screen, OK; MacPorts' screen, OK; Leopard's screen, no PATH. I have to supply the full path to whatever program I want to run under Leopard's screen, otherwise I get not found errors. Lastly, I've not looked through the problem as extensively as you have, but my setup is rather straight forward with some settings in / etc/profile and some in ~/.profile, pretty standard situation (no path_helper(8) tweaking anything). I don't see what could be hampering screen's environment in my shell configuration, so I'm also guessing it must be a problem with screen itself. This email sent to jmpalaciosp(a)eml.cc This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: screen clobbers PATH
by Steve Checkoway 31 Jan '08

31 Jan '08

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com On Jan 30, 2008, at 4:02 PM, Jonathan del Strother wrote: ... One more email, then I'll shut up. While we're discussing screen - is there some secret way of properly integrating it with the scroll buffer provided by Terminal.app? Every time I try screen out, the thing that sends me running back to a screen-less shell is not being able to scroll sensibly. -- Steve Checkoway _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… As far as I know, the only way to scroll in screen is to use the builtin scrolling, not that I ever remember what arcane command that is. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Cancel Sleep
by Amanda Walker 31 Jan '08

31 Jan '08

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com On 30 Jan 2008, at 21:15, Amanda Walker wrote: --Amanda _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… On Jan 30, 2008, at 3:28 PM, Jonas Maebe wrote: Why is sleep an interruption? One of the things that really annoys me is putting my laptop to sleep momentarily (or via energy saver), waking back up, and all of my network connections have been closed. I don't experience this. MY ssh sessions perfectly survive sleep/ wake-up, as long as a) I get the same ip address on wake up b) the remote session didn't try to send something long enough before the wake up (otherwise it will notice the other end isn't there anymore) c) the remote server didn't close the connection due to inactivity I've had ssh sessions survive several hours sleeping already. Hmm, that sounds promising. I shall have to experiment a bit more, I see. Thanks for the data point! This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: screen clobbers PATH
by Jonathan del Strother 31 Jan '08

31 Jan '08

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com Dkim-signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; bh=YHBieFQJqfLTMmO+stjIiMWaMiEfdqeUJqt9J/NzAb0=; b=xwX/f3JORh3AnR2rjc7VE6rfbSctt1WTIakkOdYbymjwnn3rLmi74q5amLvLjrxdM/Z4UNErvFlC6dnVv4lhqIEAu4wUz1wTwHV9/CQwB/GOp9+dIsH7SvzLLJ830atU5twgyXyfaNUfXtkPWt43Zjlq9t9Z0nMsTZvoFL+HQJ0= Domainkey-signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=cTEQuJV3LpftON5HWmchh0yEEbwY8U3z9Cw+AzxuLUPII0rzV6lOplztWNMUIrp13odww9Bbn2b9fghrq2gVea3c6aY2mCWLCpyjG8OrcnksUJhOxZ0pbDVnJewuRxc3Kn6D/6ZXWO5TJ0Mg1FKOsnKXLvwMH64gPLroiejd7cc= On Jan 30, 2008 11:49 PM, Jonathan del Strother <maillist(a)steelskies.com> wrote: > > On Jan 30, 2008 11:42 PM, Jonathan del Strother <maillist(a)steelskies.com> wrote: > > On Jan 30, 2008 9:57 PM, Jonas Maebe <jonas.maebe(a)elis.ugent.be> wrote: > > > > > > On 30 Jan 2008, at 22:29, Martin Costabel wrote: > > > > > > > I can't believe I am the only one seeing this. I have seen this on > > > > every machine running Leopard I have looked at and on every account > > > > I have created or could get my fingers on. > > > > > > It indeed also happens on my MacBook with 10.5.1 (bash account, also > > > with fink installed, but executing the Leopard default screen). > > > > FWIW, I see it too, on a MacBook Pro with 10.5.1. I use zsh, don't > > have fink, do have MacPorts, and I don't use screen, so no .screenrc > > etc etc. > > > > Actually, when I persuade screen to use zsh (screen -s /bin/zsh), my > path stays intact. Interesting... > ... One more email, then I'll shut up. While we're discussing screen - is there some secret way of properly integrating it with the scroll buffer provided by Terminal.app? Every time I try screen out, the thing that sends me running back to a screen-less shell is not being able to scroll sensibly. _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: screen clobbers PATH
by Jonathan del Strother 30 Jan '08

30 Jan '08

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com Dkim-signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; bh=ZmJWyPkyu9E19XqYSCGgToKYdyCN4hfsZI0LmUAHA2k=; b=UEG29t6hcbniVyI9Jd96Dju8ycjwwNrqSttf4lEVIHhz85SuuPrecE6LkzfERejU3rSg0pQEIsEXAl91ElElrOC4Msopp66RpKIJcw63hUsSx5TGBf04e0VMjRv7iUy2AQImzEpGhVuDyx+HWdtyPMTdItDkI5F+cmI/ZT0pHIk= Domainkey-signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=h3C8nfhovzpXRuTugqlytp2qhv8loFQWtEH0p8/ehlcHJn6+1i+FZHqpwzsLq59oAuT7aASAhOBA59Ts1ecPlLNeL6lR6Le8brVPuB8XJ9nrOaIRgGKVDNAovMPqHQpZisJZYuJzQrpaUC6D/OV8fQoQ7jbE11L6fRwpWoZUvkc= On Jan 30, 2008 11:42 PM, Jonathan del Strother <maillist(a)steelskies.com> wrote: > On Jan 30, 2008 9:57 PM, Jonas Maebe <jonas.maebe(a)elis.ugent.be> wrote: > > > > On 30 Jan 2008, at 22:29, Martin Costabel wrote: > > > > > I can't believe I am the only one seeing this. I have seen this on > > > every machine running Leopard I have looked at and on every account > > > I have created or could get my fingers on. > > > > It indeed also happens on my MacBook with 10.5.1 (bash account, also > > with fink installed, but executing the Leopard default screen). > > FWIW, I see it too, on a MacBook Pro with 10.5.1. I use zsh, don't > have fink, do have MacPorts, and I don't use screen, so no .screenrc > etc etc. > Actually, when I persuade screen to use zsh (screen -s /bin/zsh), my path stays intact. Interesting... _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: screen clobbers PATH
by Jonathan del Strother 30 Jan '08

30 Jan '08

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com Dkim-signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; bh=UkssZQFW2k2QxECWx1R19vs/46Ed0565UT2dhrYtr+4=; b=ML2XC87+EEf2Nqr0bo6XTsgDXI4CACmFMdM6cZQaOVoHH3YaatKDmE3DpQhkJPysPEgQYQ1Yil33nCo7R5yElV4rM/sxx4Vp/OhIhaPYPMJ+WKv2bLgDjalXTQXWRYd23qMyCeYmy4jd6hIVGsYI5879xNhVB2COn5MOtExMQQM= Domainkey-signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=LGViQ5MbxXCdclL7JIteh3J9Jz1G16ifbv7pzkBPC6KUQmBZZDRcm04sYFXG+SysAFup9o7SfpfNpl9jNiAANHlVwQdbPYQMgH+CK41ONQAYh1ijzEWYDKDddTdopHpLoy9uoFF/wd/Aa44FyVN+luvT/xceT/WPXwBblchsQ7k= On Jan 30, 2008 9:57 PM, Jonas Maebe <jonas.maebe(a)elis.ugent.be> wrote: > > On 30 Jan 2008, at 22:29, Martin Costabel wrote: > > > I can't believe I am the only one seeing this. I have seen this on > > every machine running Leopard I have looked at and on every account > > I have created or could get my fingers on. > > It indeed also happens on my MacBook with 10.5.1 (bash account, also > with fink installed, but executing the Leopard default screen). FWIW, I see it too, on a MacBook Pro with 10.5.1. I use zsh, don't have fink, do have MacPorts, and I don't use screen, so no .screenrc etc etc. _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: screen clobbers PATH
by David Mackler 30 Jan '08

30 Jan '08

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com > David, do you perhaps have the Fink "source /sw/bin/init.sh" startup > command in your ~/.bashrc script? This non-standard placement would > explain that you get the Fink PATH components when you run "screen > $SHELL", because then you would get them in any shell, regardless > of > the > environment it runs in. Indeed. I found the following in my (ancient) .bashrc: # for Fink -- needed here as screen loses completions, etc [ -r /sw/bin/init.sh ] && source /sw/bin/init.sh >From my inline comment, I must have seen this problem a long time ago (certainly prior to Leopard). David _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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