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Re: programmatically adding MIME types from an installer
by Terry Lambert 04 Jan '08

04 Jan '08

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com That's my understanding, having never written a Firefix plugin... -- Terry On Jan 3, 2008, at 5:15 PM, John Zorko <jmzorko(a)mac.com> wrote: Terry, Regards, John, who has to figure out how to do it for Windows next *sigh* Falling You - exploring the beauty of voice and sound http://www.fallingyou.com _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… Depending on how integrated you want it to look (e.g. If it opens another application, not very; if it takes over a region of the Safari display, then it's going to look like part of Safari), it could end up being a small stub to launch your app, or your app could be a complete plugin. By going the webkit route, though, that should buy you working with anything that uses webkit, without additional effort. Either way, you should try to partition the code, so you can share as much code as possible between everything, IMO. I am always a fan of less work. 8-). Wow, this helps quite a lot -- many thanks! Since this is WebKit, i'm assuming it's Safari-specific i.e. i'll have to do it a different way for Firefox (XPCOM, here I come)? Go to developer.apple.com and search for WevKitPluginStarter. It has an example of how you support a new MIME type using a plugin. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: programmatically adding MIME types from an installer
by John Zorko 04 Jan '08

04 Jan '08

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com Terry, Regards, John, who has to figure out how to do it for Windows next *sigh* Falling You - exploring the beauty of voice and sound http://www.fallingyou.com _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… Wow, this helps quite a lot -- many thanks! Since this is WebKit, i'm assuming it's Safari-specific i.e. i'll have to do it a different way for Firefox (XPCOM, here I come)? Go to developer.apple.com and search for WevKitPluginStarter. It has an example of how you support a new MIME type using a plugin. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: IOSyncer Deprecated. Replacement?
by Chris Sarcone 04 Jan '08

04 Jan '08

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Re: programmatically adding MIME types from an installer
by Terry Lambert 04 Jan '08

04 Jan '08

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com -- Terry On Jan 3, 2008, at 4:29 PM, John Zorko <jmzorko(a)mac.com> wrote: Hello, all ... Regards, John Falling You - exploring the beauty of voice and sound http://www.fallingyou.com _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/tlambert%40apple.com _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… Go to developer.apple.com and search for WevKitPluginStarter. It has an example of how you support a new MIME type using a plugin. I need to make my application installer (OSX pmproj-based) automatically add a special MIME type to OSX / Safari -- basically, when a file of a certain type is downloaded, I need the application that my installer installs to start, and it seems that MIME types are the easiest / most cross-platform (I also need to solve this same problem with Firefox on OSX, as well as Firefox and IE on Windows) / most open way to do this. I've not been able to find out how to do this by searching the Apple developer docs. Can someone point me in the right direction? I'd appreciate it :-) This email sent to tlambert(a)apple.com This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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programmatically adding MIME types from an installer
by John Zorko 04 Jan '08

04 Jan '08

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com Hello, all ... Regards, John Falling You - exploring the beauty of voice and sound http://www.fallingyou.com _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… I need to make my application installer (OSX pmproj-based) automatically add a special MIME type to OSX / Safari -- basically, when a file of a certain type is downloaded, I need the application that my installer installs to start, and it seems that MIME types are the easiest / most cross-platform (I also need to solve this same problem with Firefox on OSX, as well as Firefox and IE on Windows) / most open way to do this. I've not been able to find out how to do this by searching the Apple developer docs. Can someone point me in the right direction? I'd appreciate it :-) This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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IOSyncer Deprecated. Replacement?
by Duane Murphy 04 Jan '08

04 Jan '08

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com Recompiling my kext for Leopard has revealed that IOSyncer is entirely deprecated. Is there a replacement? What should be done instead? It appears that IOStorage still necessarily uses IOSyncer, so it can't be too far gone. :-) Thanks, ...Duane _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Building kext for Leopard and Tiger
by Duane Murphy 04 Jan '08

04 Jan '08

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com Hi Folks, This is an area that i've not delved into before. Hoping someone can help. Leopard added a new interface that my kext needs to access. But those interfaces are not needed on Tiger. Is it possible to build a single kext that will work on both Leopard and Tiger with this situation? My expectation is that Apple did not expect this interface to require backwards compatibility because the ReservedUnused locations were not used. A new virtual function was just added to the interface. What recommendations are there for handling this situation? Thanks, ...Duane _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Cancel Sleep
by Robert T Wyatt 02 Jan '08

02 Jan '08

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com Domainkey-signature: s=main; d=mail.utexas.edu; c=nofws; q=dns; h=Received:Received:Received:Message-ID:Date:From: Reply-To:Organization:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:CC: Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type: Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=u+xgtf6AVfWyXf/y+HUG82rfQERjr1PEF+sGXgN/rX/WlLDbiAopo ZwdSnY+JCKdRYJ93D0MvMsyJTmZAjoiaZucj+Ak/3eLDqvcmnpDW3 HHCiZoYXiIp9qLpk3daaC5OFpwBpntikRcJbXgVKDhc3vnPp1009/ an/eYY+ML2IE=; Organization: The University of Texas at Austin User-agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X; en-US; rv:1.8.1.11) Gecko/20071128 SeaMonkey/1.1.7 - Dave On Jan 2, 2008, at 11:10 AM, Robert T Wyatt wrote: Not if the EFI or Open Firmware password have been set. _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… Well, I understand why it may seem like a ridiculous argument since it is oblique to the OPs intent and because conventional wisdom suggests that all is lost once physical access to the machine is achieved, but where I live and work, it's much easier to walk away with a closed laptop in a backpack than with an open laptop in the middle of disassembly. The time and effort it takes to perform these tasks can make a difference 1) in letting various types of recovery software kick in, and 2) which laptops are most attractive to theives. <finished voicing opinion> Dave Schroeder wrote: No. The firmware password can be easily and trivially defeated with unfettered physical access (change physical amount of RAM in the machine, and zap PRAM). And I was about to respond to the last post, too, and thought better of it...but anyway, yes, it is a moot point and mostly a ridiculous argument, but *technically*, if a thief could somehow easily do this, it would render FileVault useless for a logged-in user. Why it would be necessary to close the lid as opposed to just taking it is beyond me, but as long as we're considering every fringe case, there's another one. Matt Burnett wrote: Thats a moot point. If a thief has physical access to a machine, he wont care if its logged in or not. If he wants the data, he can boot off a CD, if they want a machine, then well, they all ready have it. On Jan 2, 2008, at 9:50 AM, Robert T Wyatt wrote: Too bad that this may be a mechanism for a thief to use to leave one's machine running and logged in while they move it to another location. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Cancel Sleep
by Dave Schroeder 02 Jan '08

02 Jan '08

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com - Dave On Jan 2, 2008, at 11:10 AM, Robert T Wyatt wrote: Not if the EFI or Open Firmware password have been set. _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/das%40doit.wisc.edu _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… No. The firmware password can be easily and trivially defeated with unfettered physical access (change physical amount of RAM in the machine, and zap PRAM). And I was about to respond to the last post, too, and thought better of it...but anyway, yes, it is a moot point and mostly a ridiculous argument, but *technically*, if a thief could somehow easily do this, it would render FileVault useless for a logged-in user. Why it would be necessary to close the lid as opposed to just taking it is beyond me, but as long as we're considering every fringe case, there's another one. Matt Burnett wrote: Thats a moot point. If a thief has physical access to a machine, he wont care if its logged in or not. If he wants the data, he can boot off a CD, if they want a machine, then well, they all ready have it. On Jan 2, 2008, at 9:50 AM, Robert T Wyatt wrote: Too bad that this may be a mechanism for a thief to use to leave one's machine running and logged in while they move it to another location. This email sent to das(a)doit.wisc.edu This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Cancel Sleep
by Robert T Wyatt 02 Jan '08

02 Jan '08

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com Organization: The University of Texas at Austin User-agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X; en-US; rv:1.8.1.11) Gecko/20071128 SeaMonkey/1.1.7 Not if the EFI or Open Firmware password have been set. _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… Matt Burnett wrote: Thats a moot point. If a thief has physical access to a machine, he wont care if its logged in or not. If he wants the data, he can boot off a CD, if they want a machine, then well, they all ready have it. On Jan 2, 2008, at 9:50 AM, Robert T Wyatt wrote: Too bad that this may be a mechanism for a thief to use to leave one's machine running and logged in while they move it to another location. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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