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Re: job application
by Terry Lambert 31 May '09

31 May '09

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com how do i apply for a job at apple.inc? -- Terry _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… On May 30, 2009, at 6:26 AM, Esteban Barahona <bodigami(a)gmail.com> wrote: ...besides the default behaviour What is, in your opinion, the default behaviour, so we can exclude it from our answers? This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: WWDC
by Clark Cox 31 May '09

31 May '09

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com Dkim-signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=AZVk+dz7/rPSJlzEHuid2ko2t2NJ9EvWtoK5XR5CCS0=; b=gENBe4ikg7rIRCF3ZkWyTWjjXvbUu8ugN+7U/cLhnA+GWQ6Y5TSxiRJKWRPCI/hOi7 nhr2p3IXDrcaK711WnNusqmcvV6txLXGtEYbnp+Nbu0DjEVrol/RP078Dg7lk9bhrhTi f5KJa+TNCP7AmWeJlvCDhhfTXdSKmseK6mGPE= Domainkey-signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=dNB7UUZc509AtdfY/hd6cXCgmJ1fISU1Gmh7Tu/3sPePH9QhPekiT5U4mZrjGu7NT+ cSDYaIdG8StU7OWZ5HU0N28VyqUaWMmqNldl670y57HXYxl8qbJJrxS8YndWWcjCED4q 6kmHygwEit4XtEY7JulSxpMeBNWw8UK7efQEc= Then what was the point of your initial message if it wasn't a mistake? On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 4:57 AM, Esteban Barahona <bodigami(a)gmail.com> wrote: > i... do not have a twitter account (i had one, but just for less than 1 day) > > 2009/5/29 Jason Coco <jason.coco(a)gmail.com> >> >> On May 29, 2009, at 14:50 , Esteban Barahona wrote: >> >> should be voice only >> >> I think you're accidently mailing your twitter updates to the Darwin >> mailing list... > > _______________________________________________ > Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. > Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) > Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: > http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/clarkcox3%40gmail.com > > This email sent to clarkcox3(a)gmail.com > -- Clark S. Cox III clarkcox3(a)gmail.com _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Keeping reference to file, even when it moves?
by Andre-John Mas 30 May '09

30 May '09

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com On 30-May-2009, at 13:17, Nick Zitzmann wrote: On May 30, 2009, at 11:07 AM, Andre-John Mas wrote: André-John _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… Well Carbon won't be going away as such, but there won't be a 64- bit version of Carbon. Here is one source: That story is old and inaccurate. 64-bit Carbon is already here, but as I said, only the HIToolbox and some deprecated technologies did not get ported over. This means that "pure" Carbon apps can't be ported to 64-bit, but the alias manager and most everything else made it. See <http://developer.apple.com/documentation/Carbon/Conceptual/Carbon64BitGuide… > for details on what made the transition and what didn't. Thanks for the correction. I was not aware of that. With all the information you gave me, I have a path forward. Thanks. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Keeping reference to file, even when it moves?
by Nick Zitzmann 30 May '09

30 May '09

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com On May 30, 2009, at 11:07 AM, Andre-John Mas wrote: Nick Zitzmann <http://www.chronosnet.com/> _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… Well Carbon won't be going away as such, but there won't be a 64-bit version of Carbon. Here is one source: That story is old and inaccurate. 64-bit Carbon is already here, but as I said, only the HIToolbox and some deprecated technologies did not get ported over. This means that "pure" Carbon apps can't be ported to 64-bit, but the alias manager and most everything else made it. See <http://developer.apple.com/documentation/Carbon/Conceptual/Carbon64BitGuide… > for details on what made the transition and what didn't. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Keeping reference to file, even when it moves?
by Andre-John Mas 30 May '09

30 May '09

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com On 30-May-2009, at 13:00, Nick Zitzmann wrote: On May 30, 2009, at 10:57 AM, Andre-John Mas wrote: Found it: http://www.cocoadev.com/index.pl?NDAlias especially since Carbon will be going the way of the dodo in future OS releases? http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2007/06/64-bit-support-in-leopard-no-carb… André-John _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… Thank you. Do you know if there is a Cocoa equivalent, Search around for NDAlias, which is a free wrapper for alias handles. Where did you hear that? That is not true. The only parts of Carbon that are going away are the HIToolbox and a lot of deprecated technologies (QuickDraw, Internet Config, etc.). The alias manager isn't going away. Well Carbon won't be going away as such, but there won't be a 64-bit version of Carbon. Here is one source: This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Keeping reference to file, even when it moves?
by Nick Zitzmann 30 May '09

30 May '09

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com On May 30, 2009, at 10:57 AM, Andre-John Mas wrote: Search around for NDAlias, which is a free wrapper for alias handles. especially since Carbon will be going the way of the dodo in future OS releases? Nick Zitzmann <http://www.chronosnet.com/> _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… Thank you. Do you know if there is a Cocoa equivalent, Where did you hear that? That is not true. The only parts of Carbon that are going away are the HIToolbox and a lot of deprecated technologies (QuickDraw, Internet Config, etc.). The alias manager isn't going away. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Keeping reference to file, even when it moves?
by Andre-John Mas 30 May '09

30 May '09

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com On 30-May-2009, at 12:54, Nick Zitzmann wrote: On May 30, 2009, at 10:46 AM, Andre-John Mas wrote: André-John _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… Do you have a reference to example, or the necessary documentation? <http://developer.apple.com/documentation/Carbon/Reference/Alias_Manager/Ref… > Thank you. Do you know if there is a Cocoa equivalent, especially since Carbon will be going the way of the dodo in future OS releases? This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Keeping reference to file, even when it moves?
by Nick Zitzmann 30 May '09

30 May '09

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com On May 30, 2009, at 10:46 AM, Andre-John Mas wrote: Nick Zitzmann <http://www.chronosnet.com/> _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… Do you have a reference to example, or the necessary documentation? <http://developer.apple.com/documentation/Carbon/Reference/Alias_Manager/Ref… > This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Keeping reference to file, even when it moves?
by Andre-John Mas 30 May '09

30 May '09

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com On 30-May-2009, at 12:31, Nick Zitzmann wrote: On May 30, 2009, at 10:14 AM, Andre-John Mas wrote: André-John _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… If there is a way to keep track of the file when it is moved on disk, then I would be interested in knowing what the trick is. You can do that with aliases, which are part of the CoreServices framework. Do you have a reference to example, or the necessary documentation? When searching for aliases I keep seeing stuff on the 'physical' alias you see in the finder, rather than the virtual alias which you seem to be referring to. Either that, or there is something I am not understanding. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Keeping reference to file, even when it moves?
by Nick Zitzmann 30 May '09

30 May '09

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com On May 30, 2009, at 10:14 AM, Andre-John Mas wrote: Nick Zitzmann <http://www.chronosnet.com/> _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… If there is a way to keep track of the file when it is moved on disk, then I would be interested in knowing what the trick is. You can do that with aliases, which are part of the CoreServices framework. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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