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Re: Upgrading Darwin Mac OS
by Finlay Dobbie 23 Aug '09

23 Aug '09

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com Dkim-signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=4nLTbfH5Bv94g2lfLpdJJ/ZA5lhQQfKwpZu6Zr/S4I8=; b=O2DQrHCK+i14Yw63iPRZGt0nO7TpjZx5dmK5uqp+cjRk57tIiY9Ti3cNSlHDM8fqoF a9VJDrqyLcOF9UmIyakXvHFd8B0LoiSrxp2UT2Y7XMnhGAEeInJaOg5n2MLQcHTkFVb8 vW2TgBb8kuYNbB7R1D5m9HTTv0mlQ6FYcpLG4= Domainkey-signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=wEH8ZyWTsM7Fid0isTVrx2iXplLGQdOvK4GAD+XDSpLLMcTdCiaiPcXav+TOrL7Vyh FUGWaoApkcQjVseEesnvaFcpqRV4tGMoHyY/EE8sQi/x9maCMiXxFzWbZNmvkzeZAjQk voBXD6SrVu6qDJYKeoRPhERPsla7Sne+QeMBk= On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 3:31 PM, Ashish Mukherjee<ashish.mukherjee(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > I am using Darwin Mac OS X Kernel Version 8.10.1. Can I reliably upgrade to > Leopard? Is there a document which accurately describes how to? It's not entirely clear what your question is here. If you mean you are running Mac OS X Tiger, and you want to upgrade "Darwin" (in this context the BSD subsystem and Kernel) to the corresponding components from Mac OS X Leopard using the open-source components, then the answer is no. The internals of the higher layers of Mac OS X tend to depend on the internals of the lower layers of Mac OS X, and the internals can change quite significantly between major releases. If you mean you are running Mac OS X Tiger and you want to upgrade to Mac OS X Leopard, then go for it. http://store.apple.com/us/product/MC094Z/A/Mac-OSX-Leopard If you mean you are running some sort of "pure" Darwin installation based on the 8.x releases, and you want to upgrade to the 9.x releases, then the answer is sort of. See http://www.puredarwin.org/ -- Finlay _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: telnet daemon
by Terry Lambert 22 Aug '09

22 Aug '09

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Re: telnet daemon
by Ariel Feinerman 22 Aug '09

22 Aug '09

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exporting dtrace scripts from instruments
by Joel Reymont 22 Aug '09

22 Aug '09

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com I'm on Leopard 10.5.8 and the last XCode I installed was 313_2736. How do I work around this issue? Thanks, Joel P.S. I already asked on the XCode list but got no answer. --- faster mac firefox http://tinyco.de _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… Is it just me or you really cannot export DTrace scripts from Instruments 1.5 (50). The menu options are grayed out both for custom (all DTrace) and built-in instruments. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Upgrading Darwin Mac OS
by Ashish Mukherjee 22 Aug '09

22 Aug '09

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Re: List of accounts
by Ted McCabe 21 Aug '09

21 Aug '09

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com On Aug 21, 2009, at 4:07 PM, Tim Murison wrote: --Ted _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… Given all those possibilities, does your original question still hold? As a reminder: "I'm trying to determine how to get a list of BSD user ids that can login to the machine, either with a GUI or via ssh". My original query needs some amending given the new info you guys have given me. Maybe some background will help. I'm building a web filter that is configurable on a per-user basis. It should be easy to configure, so I had assumed that getting the system configuration accounts dialog user list would be a nice way to set the filter up. Evidently it turns out that this is not a trivial thing to do, and quite possibly not even the desired list. So far I'm thinking I'll just list accounts that have real names, pictures and are members of the Users group, but I was hoping for a more robust approach. Supporting network user accounts isn't that important, at least not yet; I haven't even got a test setup for it. But it would be nice to choose an approach that makes network accounts easy(ier) to configure in the future. -Tim Just musing, based on your info, if I understand and infer correctly about your situation... Big assumption on my part in what follows: you can't store the web- filter preferences for a user in the local account of the user either because you don't trust the user to set them appropriately or you lack access to modify their individual account info (e.g. dot-files or account preferences). This implies that you'll have your own database, somewhere secure, of who gets what web-filter settings, so your list of users' preferences is effectively orthogonal to the list of users on the machine. You may want to seed it with the accounts already present, but supporting 'network user accounts' means it shouldn't depend on the machine's account list as the final arbiter of who you have preferences for. Which means you'll need some tool to add new (network) account preferences to your "database" of who wants what. So you might as well think of the database initialization as being "give a set of listed users 'these default preferences'" - where the "listed users" is read from an appropriate source - not necessarily the list of user accounts on the given machine. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: telnet daemon
by Terry Lambert 21 Aug '09

21 Aug '09

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com Hi developers, Try: <www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc854.txt> and: <www.omnifarious.org/~hopper/telnet-rfc.html> for starters, instead. You might also want to look for the book: UNIX Network Programming -- Terry _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… On Aug 21, 2009, at 11:59 AM, Ariel Feinerman wrote: I must write simple telnetd for Mac as an exam, but I have never write network programme, I look for exist telnet in the Darwin source to look at it, but I could not find ... Is there telnet for Darwin? I don't think looking at someone else's telnet/telnetd sources and then cribbing from that is going to demonstrate the knowledge and problem solving skills you were intended to demonstrate, if this was actually given as an exam project. If this is an exam, I imagine it's intended to test your abilities in: reading specifications, implementing specifications, testing for interoperability, network socket programming, input/output multiplexing, termios programming, the concept of byte-stuffing and unstuffing, pty allocation, master/slave pty operations, etc.. Depending on specific requirements for what constitutes "simple", it may also include local user authentication, session management, PAM, and other topics. If I had assigned this as an exam, and you come back with a full blown implementation, I'd challenge you, and if you could not explain your design decisions or the operation of the code adequately to make me believe the code was yours, that would be an insta-fail. I'd also challenge it if the coding style varied widely. PS: Since most people use ssh instead of telnet to talk to Mac OS X machines, the Mac OS X telnetd is not as strongly maintained, and has a number of flaws when it comes to interacting with host authentication mechanisms and establishing sessions and session credentials in the kernel, so it might not be the best example from that perspective, either. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: List of accounts
by Tim Murison 21 Aug '09

21 Aug '09

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com Thread-index: Acoimv7h5lqP37eCOE+e9btpzzN54g== Thread-topic: List of accounts User-agent: Microsoft-Entourage/12.20.0.090605 > Given all those possibilities, does your original question still hold? > As a reminder: "I'm trying to determine how to get a list of BSD user > ids that can login to > the machine, either with a GUI or via ssh". My original query needs some amending given the new info you guys have given me. Maybe some background will help. I'm building a web filter that is configurable on a per-user basis. It should be easy to configure, so I had assumed that getting the system configuration accounts dialog user list would be a nice way to set the filter up. Evidently it turns out that this is not a trivial thing to do, and quite possibly not even the desired list. So far I'm thinking I'll just list accounts that have real names, pictures and are members of the Users group, but I was hoping for a more robust approach. Supporting network user accounts isn't that important, at least not yet; I haven't even got a test setup for it. But it would be nice to choose an approach that makes network accounts easy(ier) to configure in the future. -Tim *********************************************************************** This e-mail and its attachments are confidential, legally privileged, may be subject to copyright and sent solely for the attention of the addressee(s). Any unauthorized use or disclosure is prohibited. Statements and opinions expressed in this e-mail may not represent those of Radialpoint. Le contenu de ce courriel est confidentiel, privilégié et peut être soumis à des droits d'auteur. Il est envoyé à l'intention exclusive de son ou de ses destinataires. Il est interdit de l'utiliser ou de le divulguer sans autorisation. Les opinions exprimées dans le présent courriel peuvent diverger de celles de Radialpoint. _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: telnet daemon
by Ariel Feinerman 21 Aug '09

21 Aug '09

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Re: telnet daemon
by Ariel Feinerman 21 Aug '09

21 Aug '09

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