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Re: C++ dylib problem
by Robert Bielik 14 Mar '11

14 Mar '11

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com User-agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; sv-SE; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.9 Thank you Nick, it sure does :) All the best, /Rob _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… Nick Blievers skrev 2011-03-13 22:28: Hope this helps! This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: C++ dylib problem
by Nick Blievers 13 Mar '11

13 Mar '11

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Re: C++ dylib problem
by Robert Bielik 13 Mar '11

13 Mar '11

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com User-agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; sv-SE; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.9 You can also post questions on a voluntary mailing list, and then wait for a reply. However, you seem to assume that a) somebody has already come across this specific problem b) they are subscribed to this mailing list and have read your message c) they need some goading on your part to answer your question No ill intention meant, but thanks for the sermon though ;) But, to shortly answer a-c: a) Yes, since this is such a specific problem and with the Mac OS X developer base out there I really thought this must've been encountered before (which it indeed has, see more below). b) Well, if there is someone subscribed somewhere who knows the answer to this, it would be this list, would it not ?;) c) Sorry for that, it was not meant to look that way. A reaction to my a) assumption I guess... First when I googled the problem I didn't find anything I thought relevant, but I tried again and got: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3535518/qt-on-os-x-building-a-10-5-compa… so someone has come across this before, but there does not seem to be any clear answer how to avoid the problem :( For the time being, I'm going static with the C++ library... Regards /Rob _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… Eli Bach skrev 2011-03-12 23:11: This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: C++ dylib problem
by arwyn＠phasic.com 12 Mar '11

12 Mar '11

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com On Mar 12, 2011, at 3:35 PM, Robert Bielik <robert.bielik(a)xponaut.se> wrote: > Eli Bach skrev 2011-03-12 21:13: >> >> On Mar 12, 2011, at 3:08 AM, Robert Bielik wrote: >>> Robert Bielik skrev 2011-03-11 08:14: >>>> I'm clueless. Any ideas ? >>> Really noone ? Please ? >> >> >> While I don't know the answer to this, if you REALLY need to know this, the best, most reliable way to get a good answer to this is by using a tech support incident through ADC. And if you are a paid Mac Developer Program member, which you should be if you are doing serious development on Apple machines, it includes two of these incidents. > > Hmm.. so I need to pay to know the answer, because no one else knows ? Seems a bit cynical to me. Oddly enough, this wouldn't happen in the M$ world ;) How would you get an answer nobody else knows in the M$ world? - Ed _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: C++ dylib problem
by Eli Bach 12 Mar '11

12 Mar '11

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com Dkim-signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:subject:mime-version:content-type:from :in-reply-to:date:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to :x-mailer; bh=RAlfvn4/1KaGMjF9aCI9qXgxlbS0O8WEhRxuajHanmg=; b=IcBZLqgwr+f3hPqqjjsmWr82Wbj5yKm+Kd1iX7HLN5Jj4j6wWZWXncTqjdTbEE8UOA pf6LXY2Gd9oCwuKSHi+whtaYfy4DIRblINyKklcZkSUeuxGbwQn1MGbJB6Ic2y06CqT8 zVOiWJJvfzZIRkyuEbLZEk0N2kHHLh2JGud1k= Domainkey-signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=NMBNuDOQOdbudMMYXLItb8i6RyVVhh+vQRBd/IBKeTcuWjsJGvBUSbjPwcPciSO27o 6OX9rLokVpkx4UGNypQ8XEwiLiad/99f60BOI5ke92RTuAi/JjUBnWeHfXvfJPHcPPyo XrX7NDWe5M6vja31+VwEvJJMbhqcmIKrFiWx4= On Mar 12, 2011, at 1:35 PM, Robert Bielik wrote: > Hmm.. so I need to pay to know the answer, because no one else knows ? Seems a bit cynical to me. Oddly enough, this wouldn't happen in the M$ world ;) > > I'll hold that in mind though. No, you can still continue to try to figure out the answer on your own, free of charge. But you can't count on figuring out the answer, let alone a timely one. You can also file a bug report with Apple. This is also free of charge. Eventually Apple will get around to looking at it, and responding to it. However, there is no fixed reply time or guaranteed response [it might just be marked as 'duplicate' for example]. You can also post questions here and on various other technical mailing lists and web sites. But you can't count on even getting a answer, let alone a timely one. You can also post questions on a voluntary mailing list, and then wait for a reply. However, you seem to assume that a) somebody has already come across this specific problem b) they are subscribed to this mailing list and have read your message c) they need some goading on your part to answer your question You may have a misunderstanding of the technical support incident. It's not just a secret 'answer' database, where you pay money, and somebody looks up the answer in this database, and returns you the answer to your question [though it is possible somebody else also had this problem]. Typically, it is sent to an engineer who actually tries to replicate the issue and spends the time to figure what's going on. Most likely, it may actually be somebody who has worked on the xcode toolchain and can readily tell you what's what. Of course, the answer could also be something along the lines of 'that symbol isn't available on 10.5 because of a bug'. But somebody will actively look at your problem and you will get an answer. And oddly enough, Microsoft also charges for developer technical support like this. They also have developer forums and mailing lists which MAY result in an answer to a question, but they also come with no guarantee's about whether or not you will get an answer for any specific problem you may have. Eli _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: C++ dylib problem
by Amanda Walker 12 Mar '11

12 Mar '11

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com On Mar 12, 2011, at 3:35 PM, Robert Bielik <robert.bielik(a)xponaut.se> wrote: > Hmm.. so I need to pay to know the answer, because no one else knows ? Well, if no one on a mailing list has an answer for you, it can be a useful option. I've gotten very good results when I've opened ADC incidents. > Seems a bit cynical to me. Oddly enough, this wouldn't happen in the M$ world ;) Trying to shame people into working on your problem is not always an effective approach. --Amanda _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: C++ dylib problem
by Robert Bielik 12 Mar '11

12 Mar '11

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com User-agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; sv-SE; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.9 Take a look here: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2213319/how-to-build-c-for-osx-10-4-10-5… Good idea worth exploring. Thank you ! Regards /Rob _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… Juan Madrigal skrev 2011-03-12 21:24: Might be a 32bit vs 64bit dylib issue. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: C++ dylib problem
by Robert Bielik 12 Mar '11

12 Mar '11

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com User-agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; sv-SE; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.9 On Mar 12, 2011, at 3:08 AM, Robert Bielik wrote: Really noone ? Please ? Rob, Hmm.. so I need to pay to know the answer, because no one else knows ? Seems a bit cynical to me. Oddly enough, this wouldn't happen in the M$ world ;) I'll hold that in mind though. /Rob _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… Eli Bach skrev 2011-03-12 21:13: Robert Bielik skrev 2011-03-11 08:14: I'm clueless. Any ideas ? /Rob While I don't know the answer to this, if you REALLY need to know this, the best, most reliable way to get a good answer to this is by using a tech support incident through ADC. And if you are a paid Mac Developer Program member, which you should be if you are doing serious development on Apple machines, it includes two of these incidents. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: C++ dylib problem
by Eli Bach 12 Mar '11

12 Mar '11

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com Dkim-signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:subject:mime-version:content-type:from :in-reply-to:date:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to :x-mailer; bh=EzBX41AaeBZU6DUILo8oUWf2QmY/dtMlMPIyinOaAeI=; b=uhhhERd5yf+HS1+sNuLu6WUk2w17K283YMnVkW4sF747fZnU+MW0+ZMz9Zt/sBZ3mh GWEBDZn16A6ThAyQwl2Rk/WsK/vH8TpB77kp9lkZJHaz4brJQjqM+pZ0IVkrtdod6J9A TN2wNBnRTbF/5ZfUbuMh+VaTXgXKX+4VsVycE= Domainkey-signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=l3dgJrgmrFiJbXNRzRwhvIQhlKgJTwMSS7tGkIxjy0biHM8Ip9vDsSQI3Xua9FipDB pHJPqa2yz1DQrgCxeeHPSaEnclsHa3qi8kXl9MZAjOuITSSEUYEwQHYFlN+FWZyyCfrc /SwqBDBCqvVFfzcOUy6Q+g6BQcEA6/EfEwnm8= On Mar 12, 2011, at 3:08 AM, Robert Bielik wrote: > Robert Bielik skrev 2011-03-11 08:14: >> >> I'm clueless. Any ideas ? > > Really noone ? Please ? > > /Rob Rob, While I don't know the answer to this, if you REALLY need to know this, the best, most reliable way to get a good answer to this is by using a tech support incident through ADC. And if you are a paid Mac Developer Program member, which you should be if you are doing serious development on Apple machines, it includes two of these incidents. Eli _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: C++ dylib problem
by Robert Bielik 12 Mar '11

12 Mar '11

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com User-agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; sv-SE; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.9 Really noone ? Please ? /Rob _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… Robert Bielik skrev 2011-03-11 08:14: I'm clueless. Any ideas ? This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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