site_archiver@lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev@lists.apple.com On Aug 12, 2009, at 1:59 PM, Éric Lévénez wrote: - Dave _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.appl... This email sent to site_archiver@lists.apple.com Darwin as a bootable OS *from Apple* is dead, and has been for quite some time. OpenDarwin took up the torch for some time, but is also no more. Darwin as the UNIX core of Mac OS X is very much alive. Yes, sure :-) Do you disagree? The UNIX core of Mac OS X is called Darwin. If you dispute the statement that, "Darwin as the UNIX core of Mac OS X is very much alive," then that would imply you don't think Mac OS X as an OS is alive. ;-) Darwin as a collection of open source projects and software components included in Mac OS X is very much alive; some with considerable community participation and adoption; see e.g. http://www.macosforge.org Darwin as a bootable OS from the community is as alive as the community can make it; see e.g. http://www.puredarwin.org/ Darwin, OpenDarwin, PureDarwin, FreeDarwin, GNU-Darwin... some are more dead than other :-) Not really, actually. Darwin as a bootable OS from Apple and OpenDarwin are dead, PureDarwin is alive, and saying it's "dead" is like saying any Linux distro is "dead" because it doesn't have some subjective level of activity. In the bigger picture, yes, I'll concede it's probably fair to say that any "Darwin" OS (aside from Mac OS X) is dead. But Darwin is very much alive inside Mac OS X; the fact that it's not available from Apple as a standalone OS called Darwin was a decision that certainly impacted other Darwin-as-an-OS efforts, but I'm sure you'll agree Mac OS X is something of a common UNIX OS -- some might say by far the most common. ;-) smime.p7s