site_archiver@lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev@lists.apple.com On Dec 19, 2007, at 3:02 PM, Andre-John Mas wrote: -- Steve Checkoway "Anyone who says that the solution is to educate the users hasn't ever met an actual user." -- Bruce Schneier _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.appl... This email sent to site_archiver@lists.apple.com Is there any way for a developer to find out crashes related to their software via Apple? It would be ideal if there was service that I could sign up to as a developer or if MacOS X could send the log to the the application developer, though I realise the latter might be considered a 'security risk'. I sort of doubt it. It's probably easiest to write your own crash handler (or modify a free one, such as the one I helped write) and handle user crashes with backtracing yourself. That way you can also include other information that is useful for tracking down bugs. Easiest way we found was to catch the signal, open a pipe, fork a new process, reexec with a special argument so it knows to run the crash handler code, and write(2) the data to the child process. Then the child process can do things like look up symbols, make up a nice crash report and then inform the user who then has the choice to send it to you or not. smime.p7s