site_archiver@lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev@lists.apple.com Thank you, Jason. Am 06.01.2011 um 01:08 schrieb Jason Coco:
On Jan 5, 2011, at 18:33 , vincenzi@lavabit.com wrote:
finally an answer, i don't need to know ObjC for my project. so C it is (as i said... much earlier, i know Java and a little of C++ and ASKED for a reference to read and study, but got NO reply).
cross posting at a web forum? was that some form of joke? i was just suggesting that this mailing list will be better as a web forum (Vanilla works nice).
Vincent/Esteban/Stephan/Whatever,
I think the problem is that your posts generally do not make a lot of sense and seem to be more about your political views/opinions than anything to do with a technical development mailing list for Darwin.
For instance, most people on this list honestly couldn't care less if you relocate to Mountain View or if you relocate to Milan or what you want to call yourself today, since it all has very little (read:nothing) to do with Darwin development.
As for your project, it's not actually very clear what you're doing or what you really need help with. We did answer the couple of actual Darwin-related development questions you asked, but mostly ignored the other inane rantings.
Also, your questions themselves often seem muddled and quite trollish. If they're genuine development-related questions, I apologize for most of us, but given your history on this list posting political statements and attempting to ignite discussion here regarding such statements, it's hard to treat a question like 'What backdoors have governments put into Darwin?' as a real question and not an attempt to start another political debate. Finally, you seem to be missing a key understanding of the difference between Mac OS X and Darwin when you ask some of your questions. For example, what Mail and the Keychain Access applications may or may not do are not really relevant since neither are included with Darwin. Also, since you have full access to the source, you can reasonably set the trust properties of your Cert Authorities in your home-spun OS/Window Manager thing. You can even do this in Mac OS X if you feel the urge to do so, it just comes pre-loaded with appropriate top-level trust certs so that you can do such basic things as browse the web.
Anyway, most people here are quite knowledgeable and helpful for real Darwin-related engineering questions. If you just do a quick perusal of this list over the past year or so, however, you'll see that you rarely actually ask such questions and you're often asked by people who try to be helpful at first to either remain on-topic or to stop posting. I suggest you take that advice, this is not a political debate forum nor is this a forum for creating the next best user experience, it's simply a Darwin engineering forum. If you want to discuss those other topics, take your own advice and find a nice web forum that does so.
Le 5 janv. 2011 à 23:48, Stephen J. Butler a écrit :
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 4:15 PM, Axel Luttgens <luttgens@fusl.ac.be> wrote:
Either some posts didn't arrive in my mailbox, or some of them were off-list. Anyway, I'm lost... What are we speaking about? ;-)
He wants us to tell him where all the backdoors are in the kernel, because he doesn't know ObjC. Except we told him there aren't any known backdoors, the kernel isn't ObjC, and if he wanted a security audit he'd have to do it himself.
The rest of these posts have been rather unintelligible attempts at cross posting an OT discussion to a web forum. I wish he'd just stop...
Thanks Stephen. I'm now a bit reassured. :-) Axel
Yeah, don't worry, Axel, you haven't really missed anything of value.
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