site_archiver@lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev@lists.apple.com Dkim-signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:subject :mime-version:date:references:x-mailer; bh=SsjlszQSLOmh9MKF5qm+ztGBlxiZBKX9WQZumR4oApw=; b=Wci7Rk97mW+JNKXES3blk2PauspQ2IHcQ7JZSlUQmGdRGGFBQjs44SSYT3xYSo27Yi mACwZpgEhrbajRrTvc8PMxg+EshMQ47PnD6oU65iaitvRWWgiWUYmp567m83FdCLryHt DSyEGewRQR+tiV/30I5q5qwck1dHsx1lUOPLE= Domainkey-signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:subject:mime-version:date:references :x-mailer; b=HvuCGYpHW0z4//js4y6ZjR08GvmZM5rk/podkdk7LaoetSok03AU2O+5IIR0Ky2esQ I7GGuSIGM/Q9lklLKQ2j7GUyRMp7sG94nSmpi+meCY5TaK4geg1y4KF/126G7kzKwoyW JoRkpJE5niPURnSXA5dzvQHCqU3CcYc6/pt8Q= On May 10, 2009, at 3:25 PM, Juan Madrigal wrote: 1) OpenSolaris Zones - http://www.solarisinternals.com/wiki/index.php/Zones More advanced then Jails: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jail_(computer_security)#Implementations 2) Bootable ZFS with integrated Clustering in ZFS 3) Sun Grid Engine into the kernel (http://gridengine.sunsource.net/) L4 over Mach? L4/Darwin http://ertos.nicta.com.au/software/darbat/ L4.sec http://os.inf.tu-dresden.de/L4/L4.Sec/ I believe Apple is working on 2, except perhaps the clustering part. Eli _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.appl... I would be interested in seeing these features from OpenSolaris ported and integrated into the Darwin kernel. Thoughts? This looks like a "I spent sunday afternoon surfing, and found these cool projects. Apple should implement them in it's OS." I don't think Apple is really going for the hardcore datacenter system's that 'Zones' is aimed at. And businesses are still wary of putting Apple hardware in their datacenters. For an example, see complaints about the disappearance with no notice of Apples XRaid hardware. Yes, you can still buy parts for them, but it was literally, one day it was present on the Apple Store web site, the next day, gone, with just a "Apple recommends some third-party RAID system now". Why put Sun Grid Engine into the kernel? It looks like something an individual could possibly port (but I haven't looked at the actual code), and it doesn't appear to need to be embedded into the kernel in any significant way. I would bet it is extremely unlikely Apple would migrate to L4, but they might consider using some of the concepts from the project to make their kernel better. As I am Steve Jobs silent partner at Apple, this is Apple's official word on the subject. This email sent to site_archiver@lists.apple.com