site_archiver@lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev@lists.apple.com Darwin as the UNIX core of Mac OS X is very much alive. - Dave On Aug 12, 2009, at 12:47 PM, Éric Lévénez wrote: Is Darwin dead ? _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.appl... This email sent to site_archiver@lists.apple.com Darwin as a bootable OS *from Apple* is dead, and has been for quite some time. OpenDarwin took up the torch for some time, but is also no more. Darwin as a collection of open source projects and software components included in Mac OS X is very much alive; some with considerable community participation and adoption; see e.g. http://www.macosforge.org Darwin as a bootable OS from the community is as alive as the community can make it; see e.g. http://www.puredarwin.org/ You won't get an Apple statement saying "Darwin is dead", because Darwin means so many things. You also (probably) won't get an Apple statement saying "Darwin OS is dead". And since "Darwin" is the core of Mac OS X, and Mac OS X (as of 10.5.x) is one of few OSes actually officially able to be labeled "UNIX", you may still want to reference Darwin with respect to your descriptions for Mac OS X. At the beginning of Darwin project, the announcement was about Darwin OS, with Darwin release number. The last one was, I think, Darwin 9.7. It seems to me that the Darwin operating system is fading out. For Mac OS X 10.5.8, no word about Darwin 9.8. My question is not about the open source projects under the Darwin name, but only about Darwin as a standalone operating system. I have a little history of Unix systems on my web site, and I am thinking about not talking about Darwin OS for the future releases (in particular for Mac OS X 10.6). I only want to have Apple feedback on that little question :-) Thank you. smime.p7s