site_archiver@lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev@lists.apple.com i share this because it's memorable such stupidity ... clap clap Felix Kronlage it's crazy to have comments from someone who have never build darwin and run really it on different hardwares... who are you? comments from someone who is not able to use IOKKit or the coreFoundation correctly a gem ( Apple doc is complete about that ) and who urinates of a disgusting code ... Sorry for vulgarity , but there are limits ... -- Plum On 4 Jun, Felix Kronlage wrote: In fact Darwin is a free and open source operating system. free and open yes. usable without the binary drivers? no. Actually it is a fact. GNU-Darwin does not distribute proprietary software, and that includes the OS. In fact, we have a bounty program against such. We distribute a Darwin OS installer disk which installs nothing but free software. The proprietary drivers have been stripped out. It boots, and it is operable. You should have a look at our offerings. http://www.gnu-darwin.org/index.php?page=order I myself use a versions of Darwin-7.0 and 7.2 which have been stripped of proprietary binaries. They work just fine, but Darwin-7 not suitably stable for distribution to end users. Darwin-8.0 and 8.3 are a free and open source OS, and they work fine without the proprietary drivers, with one exception. That is the meaning of the screenshots and the purpose of these postings, to free the AppleACPIPlatform driver (and to keep xnu free as well of course). Regards, proclus http://www.gnu-darwin.org/ _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.appl... darwin does not have any significant scene behind it. sorry, but I experienced that over 2 1/2 years quite well and it is time that you accept that as well. Don't come me with 'judging from our sales and web site traffic' statements. Web-site traffic does not proof shit and nobody besides you knows about the 'sales'. And I am sorry to say, but I hardly believe any sane person wastes money on the stuff you sell. I am sorry to hear that you have diminished your expectations, and we have come to expect fine contributions from you in the Darwin community. It is sad to hear that so many people are discouraged, when Apple has done so much to maintain a free and open source operating system. I am confident that Apple will continue to do so. They have every reason in the world to continue with our community, and we are all the benefactors. Come and join with us, and your efforts will be well spent. felix This email sent to site_archiver@lists.apple.com