site_archiver@lists.apple.com Delivered-To: Darwin-dev@lists.apple.com User-agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Macintosh/20050317) Michael L Torrie wrote: Red Hat is just as guilty of hiding their dirty laundry. Take this for example: [PATCH] read() sometimes crashes in the second pthread_set_canceltype call (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=130926) This is a major 2.4 linux kernel patch that fixes a serious flaw in the POSIX threading library in RH Enterprise Linux 2.1 -- an OS that's been around for a few years now. Strangely enough, even when logged in to my Red Hat bugzilla account, I'm told that I am not authorized to access that particular bug ID. You are forgetting that Apple, HP, IBM, SGI, Sun Microsystems, Intel, nVidia, ATI, VIA, Red Hat, Novell, etc. are all businesses that sell highly competitive products and will continue to do anything to stay in business and make money for themselves and shareholders -- even if it is under the guise of allegedly contributing to the open source community. I can't deny that some of these companies have contributed significiantly to the open source community -- some more than others -- but one shouldn't be surprised when they hold their cards close to their chest. I would imagine that Sun is going to face similar challenges with Open Solaris. Who's going to want to give freely to a project that is unlikely to give much back? -Gary _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.appl... Unlike fellow enterprise competitors like RedHat, Apple's darwin bug tracking system is not open and I was not able to see if my problems had already been reported. ... Had this been RedHat, I could have had dialogs with the RedHat engineers and developers over this. These are the things I have come to expect and rely on in my traditional Linux world. This email sent to site_archiver@lists.apple.com