site_archiver@lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev@lists.apple.com I thought that's what you said you wanted, maybe I was mistaken. From my machine: default 172.31.128.254 UGSc 3 103 en0 172.31.192/19 172.31.128.254 UGSc 2 4 en0 The 172.31.192/19 certainly is not a default route. Do you need host routes too? You can still look for them with netstat. Like I said, the netstat tool, and its source code are your friend ;) route add default 192.168.0.250 Thanks. - Chase _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.appl... Actually, it should show you all the gateways, not just the default route: G RTF_GATEWAY Destination requires forwarding by intermediary Drew I've tried this in the past and I tried again just now. It only shows the default router address. There is absolutely no mention of the other router ip address in the netstat output. By the way: I just accidentally deleted all my routes and lost internet connectivity by running "route flush". The only thing I could think of to do was: ...which seems to have worked. Would a reboot have fixed that problem, since the routing table is adjusted dynamically? If not, what's the recommended way to get the defaults back to normal again? Is "route add default <router_ip>" an incomplete fix in any way? This email sent to site_archiver@lists.apple.com