site_archiver@lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev@lists.apple.com - chase _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.appl... i have been eyebrows-deep in the route source code for two weeks now (and, of course, the manpage too). the bottom line is that i need **all routers** and everything that interacts with the routing table that i've seen so far only acknowledges the **default** router. you may be right, but you weren't specific enough to convince me of anything. and netstat does not display all the router addresses on the network. it only displays the address of the default router. someone else chimed in earlier saying the same thing, but it simply doesn't do it, at least not with the arguments he had suggested and not with any of the arguments that i've tried previously or since. if you know how to get netstat to display the router addresses for all connected networks, i'd love to know too. :) note: on another list, someone pointed out that this info can be obtained using the SystemConfiguration apis. i've figured out how to get it that way and it works fine, but it isn't portable to other operating systems, obviously. since the first release of this app is for mac os only, for the time being, i'll be using that technique, but i still want to find out **some** way of doing this in a platform- agnostic way for possible future ports. also note: i just found out that windows machines don't respond to broadcast pings, which would explain why all i received back was my address and the address of the router (all the other machines on both lans are running windows). so that's out the door i guess. This email sent to site_archiver@lists.apple.com