site_archiver@lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev@lists.apple.com Dkim-signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=alh7NquUHEtmXJWXC8CM294XhB9rAZ1BzLVxM4sOjwQ2y9s8OkjqEvDYVwFEJBlRn7vfwm1ygXl0iBGRIVq1Gn7Gj+BgCCRCmIE7otTKXq7TZ5GpI5AqiayjENQCMVF6+gPg/a/4ge0wk8xF4u/j7/B8lbz2VNklr93cYlgrtN0= Domainkey-signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=R/1LCmNf8GQqD4JSmWHurskkMZ+K6GwKclpmJ7yfMUf2AbHHQ19Fvt+4DU6TNzl0UVEU/QdmaC/yY4fwDPmnkl5TL1RqPAT0x0h7474p1t15+TBPbkcHnN3lN2pp5aycGo0JxKc2myKCFOcnOzEWDCXCkmqZxxwVWc686wEfH9A= On 8/15/07, Matt Burnett <matt.w.burnett@gmail.com> wrote:

Regarding the whole kernel hook abuse issue. I think this could have a much better solution than security though obscurity. There are several articles in Phrack magazine on how to do this with previous versions of OS X and other similar OSes. I too figured out how to do this on current versions of OS X.

I think you misunderstand what Terry stated. This isn't a security feature. This is Apple marking things that developers shouldn't use as private, etc... Apple doesn't want to support this type activity by developers at this time (likely ever). Instead you (and others) should be outlining what you need/want to do conceptually (not how you think you need to do it) so that Apple can better understand what types of _supported_ API they need to provide. I know you likely need to get things done so sometimes doing things the wrong / unsupported way is the only short term solution but it is your interest to file enhancement/defect requests with Apple about the missing API that you need (again try to describe the problem domain of your product as best you can when doing so). -Shawn _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.appl... This email sent to site_archiver@lists.apple.com