site_archiver@lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev@lists.apple.com On Jun 3, 2006, at 7:33 AM, Peter Seebach wrote: - Jordan _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.appl... What I want launchd to do is "handle the dependencies needed to determine when a daemon can be safely launched". I think I got that part already, but we need to get more specific. HOW should it handle the dependencies (in ways not already provided for)? What ARE those dependencies? That's the kind of detail I'm asking for. The above sentence qualifies more as a mission statement than a specific set of goals, and we've already been all over the mission statement side of things in this thread. So, it'd be REALLY NICE if launchd provided at least a few basic hooks so that the easy cases would Just Work. If you'd enumerate some of these hooks and "easy cases", that would be helpful. Cool. Clean it up, give it a man page, and include it in the system, and we should be all done. You're certainly jumping rather eagerly on my solution without knowing what it actually does. That's either a testament to your enthusiasm or a worrying sign that you don't know what you actually want. :-) That's what I want, at least; I want APPLE to provide the code to handle the fairly basic functionality of "launch this program only when the system can support it", so I don't have to maintain thirty-leven copies of the code which checks for and waits on services. Apple HAS provided this already. That's what IPC-based launching is all about - when something is actually needed, use the interlock that IPC gives you to launch it and allow it to satisfy the request. You're saying that's not enough, so please provide details as to what you'd like to see (and when I say "details" I mean "something that someone could actually start implementing", not "I want a system that Does The Right Thing, dammit!"). This email sent to site_archiver@lists.apple.com