site_archiver@lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev@lists.apple.com On 7 jun 2006, at 18.51, Michael Bartosh wrote: On Jun 7, 2006, at 10:29 AM, Ragnar Sundblad wrote: Well, I think it is very uncommon to turn it off, and those machines still work for people. I'd recommend not to turn it off. Maybe your turning it off is why you fell that it doesn't work? It does, just use it and hope to forget about it. You have had problem(s) (with AuthAuthority), and I fully understand that you therefore have decided to turn it off when you don't have any explicit need for it. Very good, keep it up! /ragge _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.appl... When you deploy to 10,000 desktops, fringe cases tend to pop up. So we are exceedingly conservative. In the IT environments I work we attempt to minimize costs. This is the best way to ensure the Mac has a competitive advantage in those environments. We do that by minimizing unknowns. As I've illustrated, and as André has illustrated, there are unknowns associated with IPv6 deployment. I wonder if we ever will get to a point where there will not be unknowns, or at least things to learn for IT staff, with ipv6, or anything else for that matter. André's question indicated an interest for deploying v6, or at least trying it out, but also a lot of doubt. In my experience, that doubt is not really called for anymore, and that is what I wanted to tell. (But, of course, YMMV.) Again, many people successfully use ipv6 because they need to (because of the small the v4 address space), a lot of stuff does without the user knowing, and many new things come with ipv6 enabled, and they are still on the market. I don't think it deserves to be compared to the Y2K problem in any other sense than that many people have taken the measurements that they should, and things in general just work. That doesn't make much sense. What I mean is that those things that don't tend to bring you problems you normally leave alone, not the least for not entering the world of unknowns because of non standard setup. I believe you can do that with ipv6 too. We enable (or rather, don't disable) ipv6 on all new machines we deploy of all OS kinds we use, and have very little problem with it. On Jun 7, 2006, at 7:16 AM, johnsmailinglists@mac.com wrote: This is what helps to make sure that it is more trouble in the future. Keep up the good work. If Macs are too much trouble, there won't be a future for these customers. Reporting bugs (which I do a lot of) helps to ensure that this doesn't occur in the future. This email sent to site_archiver@lists.apple.com