site_archiver@lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev@lists.apple.com Dkim-signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=NF/JICZ9GltbTc2nIJ94nN7eYcu5Ba61dwprnWwksxU=; b=CkIKvgLQVIWndjg1rKD7R8BtzHt56wggE1b0kqbyicDLdWq6Yf0obSaqGITMqgm4ti eCctNrUNwWrjUE5WjjMm4Iq1b/faFh060tbs3mPH3Qxh/6F4AoVwkiYRYaWsAQ1csmVd YVgW1wdXV1UegFbmKI5p0OtiQG4z+mEvHbtMSQAzNZvgwIn+QNaKL/znwhdwdoqVa11y O0gM0f9hcAs+Sn5k8TbjIIP6QRuNCJz9v+ZyKpQcT/u77s0+9OZt8FLohzd3gS/Q3K1J 1K8jlgWisQPdK5AKznf5/F0mzlVwK9Epps6Y4ehhyXLkFJ7oOuKFqmVvBfboqn4vUEqa NdsQ== Opening up these projects would also provide a major boost to Nix on macOS [1] (you could think of it as a more ambitious homebrew competitor, by first approximation), which compiles as many of the opensource.apple.com projects from scratch as it can, but has previously been limited by many of them being hobbled/redacted/missing. I think we also have one of the few non-Xcode-based toolchains on macOS, meaning you can go from a fresh macOS install to a fully working clang or gcc, using only public ASPL source from Apple and other OSS tooling. A couple of notes: although "corecrypto is not open source" is indeed true, they did release their source publicly for auditing purposes. The source release is about as OSS-unfriendly as possible though, and sits in an unversioned URL (https://developer.apple.com/security/) behind a legal agreement. The biggest thorns in my (Nix's) side on this front are: 1. launchd/XPC 2. libm 3. dsymutil is technically open source and in LLVM, but the source from apple's LLVM/clang release hasn't been ported over to upstream LLVM in ages and is causing me a lot of pain These naturally deviate somewhat from the puredarwin/opendarwin goals since Nix doesn't try to get an independently bootable system, but rather a pure/FOSS/independent enclave within an existing macOS installation. Thanks, Dan [1] http://nixos.org/nix/ On Sun, Jun 11, 2017 at 5:03 PM, Ethan Sherriff <ethansherriff@hotmail.co.uk

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Em 2017-06-10 21:11, Ethan Sherriff escreveu:

We have also filed rdar://31842314 for libxpc and launchd not being open source, however we already in contact with Apple Developer Relations over this.

Any news about libxpc and launchd? I'm interested on both.

Nothing yet, sadly. However, the bug report that I filed was marked as a duplicate of rdar://11192369. Due to the significantly lower Radar number assigned to this duplicate, I suspect that it was filed quite a while ago, and that Apple are considering an open source release (however, this are merely my suspicions).

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