site_archiver@lists.apple.com Delivered-To: Darwin-dev@lists.apple.com On 16 May 2006, at 09:50, Finlay Dobbie wrote: I'm not dissing launchd, I'm just saying that I have encountered particular situations where it didn't really seem to be the best option. In particular, there was a situation where I had to start Tomcat and a java application which needed MySQL to be running beforehand. Cheers, Graham. -- Graham J Lee "Oxford University's UNIX Expert" As seen in MacWorld UK http://iamleeg.blogspot.com _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.appl... This email sent to site_archiver@lists.apple.com On 15/05/06, Jordan K. Hubbard <jkh@apple.com> wrote: Sorry, but the "server environment" classification hardly guarantees that each and every service being provided by the server needs to be running all the time, particularly in SOHO configurations where one box serves potentially dozens of needs "in theory" but, in practice, finds many of those needs to be occasional usage scenarios at best. Couldn't you put your server:8080 into the Sockets dict for TomCat and have MySQL RunAtLoad [definitely not having launchd wait for /var/ mysql/mysql.sock to be accessed....]? Or is one of the application/ TomCat/Java too slow to start up for that? smime.p7s