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Re: Compiling System Commands
by Justin Walker 18 Jun '04

18 Jun '04

On Jun 18, 2004, at 9:01, Krishna Monian wrote: Hi All, I am having trouble compiling the sytem commands sources. Are there any special requirements? I have downloaded that system_cmds-279.6.tar.gz and am trying to compile it without making any changes. Could someone help me out on this. As I tried to point out yesterday, we can't provide help if you can't tell us what is wrong. "It doesn't work" does not qualify as telling us what is wrong. Regards, Justin -- /~\ The ASCII Justin C. Walker, Curmudgeon-at-Large \ / Ribbon Campaign X Help cure HTML Email / \ _______________________________________________ darwin-kernel mailing list | darwin-kernel(a)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Archives: http://www.lists.apple.com/mailman/listinfo/darwin-kernel Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored.

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Compiling System Commands
by Krishna Monian 18 Jun '04

18 Jun '04

Hi All, I am having trouble compiling the sytem commands sources. Are there any special requirements? I have downloaded that system_cmds-279.6.tar.gz and am trying to compile it without making any changes. Could someone help me out on this. Thanks in advance Krishna Monian __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/maildemo _______________________________________________ darwin-kernel mailing list | darwin-kernel(a)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Archives: http://www.lists.apple.com/mailman/listinfo/darwin-kernel Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored.

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Re: File Monitoring under Mac OS X
by Krishna Monian 18 Jun '04

18 Jun '04

fs_usage might actaully be more suited to my needs. I didn't know of its existence before I came across FAM. :) One question I have on fs_usage is that, if you access a file from a bash shell (say more <filename>) then it doesn't report the entire path, but only the filename. Would you happen to know the reason behind this and whether it can be changed? Thanks Krishna --- Jonas Maebe <jonas(a)zeus.ugent.be> wrote: > On 17 jun 2004, at 20:34, Krishna Monian wrote: > > > I have been trying to get the FreeBSD port of FAM > to > > run on Mac OS X 10.3.4 (Panther). However, I > haven't > > had any luck so far. > > I'm wondering what's wrong with plain fs_usage > (which is installed > either by the default BSD package, or by the > developer tools)? It shows > all file accesses performed by all programs, and > includes file names. > > > Jonas > _______________________________________________ > darwin-kernel mailing list | > darwin-kernel(a)lists.apple.com > Help/Unsubscribe/Archives: > http://www.lists.apple.com/mailman/listinfo/darwin-kernel > Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be > ignored. > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail _______________________________________________ darwin-kernel mailing list | darwin-kernel(a)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Archives: http://www.lists.apple.com/mailman/listinfo/darwin-kernel Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored.

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Re: File Monitoring under Mac OS X
by Jonas Maebe 18 Jun '04

18 Jun '04

On 17 jun 2004, at 20:34, Krishna Monian wrote: I have been trying to get the FreeBSD port of FAM to run on Mac OS X 10.3.4 (Panther). However, I haven't had any luck so far. I'm wondering what's wrong with plain fs_usage (which is installed either by the default BSD package, or by the developer tools)? It shows all file accesses performed by all programs, and includes file names. Jonas _______________________________________________ darwin-kernel mailing list | darwin-kernel(a)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Archives: http://www.lists.apple.com/mailman/listinfo/darwin-kernel Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored.

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Re: Monitoring File Access (Read / Write)
by Justin Walker 18 Jun '04

18 Jun '04

Rats. On Jun 17, 2004, at 17:01, Justin Walker wrote: On Jun 17, 2004, at 16:51, Krishna Monian wrote: Is there any fixed procedure for compiling system commands? I believe that 'make' should generally work. There may be order dependencies between projects or subprojects; and not all headers may be installed by default. This is a murky area, especially if you try to build just one subproject. A bit of patience and some detective work is called for. Questions to the list often elicits [elicit] useful answers, but the latter are dependent on who [an alternate spelling of 'how'] well the former are posed. Regards, Justin -- Justin C. Walker, Curmudgeon-At-Large * Institute for General Semantics | If you're not confused, | You're not paying attention *--------------------------------------*-------------------------------* _______________________________________________ darwin-kernel mailing list | darwin-kernel(a)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Archives: http://www.lists.apple.com/mailman/listinfo/darwin-kernel Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored.

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Re: Monitoring File Access (Read / Write)
by Justin Walker 18 Jun '04

18 Jun '04

On Jun 17, 2004, at 16:51, Krishna Monian wrote: Is there any fixed procedure for compiling system commands? I believe that 'make' should generally work. There may be order dependencies between projects or subprojects; and not all headers may be installed by default. This is a murky area, especially if you try to build just one subproject. A bit of patience and some detective work is called for. Questions to the list often elicits useful answers, but the latter are dependent on who well the former are posed. Can they be modified to suit my needs? That, of course, depends on your needs. Regards, Justin -- Justin C. Walker, Curmudgeon-At-Large * Institute for General Semantics | When LuteFisk is outlawed | Only outlaws will have | LuteFisk *--------------------------------------*-------------------------------* _______________________________________________ darwin-kernel mailing list | darwin-kernel(a)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Archives: http://www.lists.apple.com/mailman/listinfo/darwin-kernel Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored.

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Re: Monitoring File Access (Read / Write)
by Krishna Monian 17 Jun '04

17 Jun '04

Is there any fixed procedure for compiling system commands? Can they be modified to suit my needs? Thanks for all the help --- Justin Walker <justin(a)mac.com> wrote: > On Jun 17, 2004, at 16:06, Krishna Monian wrote: > > > Where could I find the source for fs_usage? > > It's a subproject of the system_cmds project in the > Darwin source tree. > See <http://developer.apple.com/darwin>. > > > I dont think kqueue gives u the path of the file. > > fs_usage seems better in that aspect. Correct me > if I > > am wrong though. > > Can't help there; use the source, Luke. > > Cheers, > > Justin > > -- > Justin C. Walker, Curmudgeon-At-Large * > Institute for General Semantics | "Weaseling > out of things is > what > | separates > us from the animals. > | Well, > except the weasel." > | - > Homer J Simpson > *--------------------------------------*-------------------------------* > _______________________________________________ > darwin-kernel mailing list | > darwin-kernel(a)lists.apple.com > Help/Unsubscribe/Archives: > http://www.lists.apple.com/mailman/listinfo/darwin-kernel > Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be > ignored. > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail _______________________________________________ darwin-kernel mailing list | darwin-kernel(a)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Archives: http://www.lists.apple.com/mailman/listinfo/darwin-kernel Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored.

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Re: Monitoring File Access (Read / Write)
by Justin Walker 17 Jun '04

17 Jun '04

On Jun 17, 2004, at 16:06, Krishna Monian wrote: Where could I find the source for fs_usage? It's a subproject of the system_cmds project in the Darwin source tree. See <http://developer.apple.com/darwin>. I dont think kqueue gives u the path of the file. fs_usage seems better in that aspect. Correct me if I am wrong though. Can't help there; use the source, Luke. Cheers, Justin -- Justin C. Walker, Curmudgeon-At-Large * Institute for General Semantics | "Weaseling out of things is what | separates us from the animals. | Well, except the weasel." | - Homer J Simpson *--------------------------------------*-------------------------------* _______________________________________________ darwin-kernel mailing list | darwin-kernel(a)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Archives: http://www.lists.apple.com/mailman/listinfo/darwin-kernel Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored.

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Re: Monitoring File Access (Read / Write)
by Krishna Monian 17 Jun '04

17 Jun '04

Where could I find the source for fs_usage? I dont think kqueue gives u the path of the file. fs_usage seems better in that aspect. Correct me if I am wrong though. Thanks --- Justin Walker <justin(a)mac.com> wrote: > On Jun 17, 2004, at 15:33, Krishna Monian wrote: > > > I think fs_usage might just do the trick, although > I > > am not yet sure. I will have to test it out more > > thoroughly. > > > > 1 thing I noticed about fs_usage was that when u > read > > a file say using more from the shell, it doesn't > > display the entire path of the file. Is there any > way > > to make it do this? > > I'm not sure of the answer. If, as Brian suggests, > you look at the > kqueue stuff, there may be a way. Also, you will > need to check > fs_usage source to determine whether that app is > getting the > information and not using it. > > Regards, > > Justin > > -- > Justin C. Walker, Curmudgeon-At-Large * > Institute for General Semantics | When > LuteFisk is outlawed > | Only > outlaws will have > | > LuteFisk > *--------------------------------------*-------------------------------* > _______________________________________________ > darwin-kernel mailing list | > darwin-kernel(a)lists.apple.com > Help/Unsubscribe/Archives: > http://www.lists.apple.com/mailman/listinfo/darwin-kernel > Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be > ignored. > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - Send 10MB messages! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail _______________________________________________ darwin-kernel mailing list | darwin-kernel(a)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Archives: http://www.lists.apple.com/mailman/listinfo/darwin-kernel Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored.

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Re: Monitoring File Access (Read / Write)
by Justin Walker 17 Jun '04

17 Jun '04

On Jun 17, 2004, at 15:33, Krishna Monian wrote: I think fs_usage might just do the trick, although I am not yet sure. I will have to test it out more thoroughly. 1 thing I noticed about fs_usage was that when u read a file say using more from the shell, it doesn't display the entire path of the file. Is there any way to make it do this? I'm not sure of the answer. If, as Brian suggests, you look at the kqueue stuff, there may be a way. Also, you will need to check fs_usage source to determine whether that app is getting the information and not using it. Regards, Justin -- Justin C. Walker, Curmudgeon-At-Large * Institute for General Semantics | When LuteFisk is outlawed | Only outlaws will have | LuteFisk *--------------------------------------*-------------------------------* _______________________________________________ darwin-kernel mailing list | darwin-kernel(a)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Archives: http://www.lists.apple.com/mailman/listinfo/darwin-kernel Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored.

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