January 2006 - Darwin-kernel

Re: cross Arch communication to NKE?
by Peter Lovell 27 Jan '06

27 Jan '06

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-kernel(a)lists.apple.com Regards.....Peter On Jan 27, 2006, at 10:01 AM, AgentM wrote: On Jan 26, 2006, at 9:42 PM, Peter Lovell wrote: Regards.....Peter On Jan 26, 2006, at 6:52 PM, Josh Graessley wrote: No. -josh On Jan 26, 2006, at 3:26 PM, Vinnie Moscaritolo wrote: Specifically I do the following: #define MY_NKE_KEXT_NAME "com.me.kext.mynke" struct ctl_info ctl_info; int sock; /* get NKE ID */ bzero(&ctl_info, sizeof(struct ctl_info)); strcpy(ctl_info.ctl_name, MY_NKE_KEXT_NAME); if (ioctl(sock, CTLIOCGINFO, &ctl_info) == -1) RETERR(kPGPError_FeatureNotAvailable); what does this mean? -- |-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|- AgentM agentm(a)themactionfaction.com |-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|- _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-kernel mailing list (Darwin-kernel(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-kernel/site_archiver%40lists.… Absolutely. I have complete control over the application (I guess, other than the speed with which I can convert it to fully native :) I can pre-change in application space, or post-change in my kext - doesn't make much difference AFAICT. Obviously I have to convert somewhere, as the data block is opaque (known to my app and kext, but not to kernel or Rosetta). So I know that's a task I have to do, but I just need a connection. Could you put an intermediate process into the user-space pipe chain which would dynamically change the byte-order of your messages? Obviously, you would only want it to run where the PPC app is on Intel. This is a really big deal. I have an app which will move only slowly to native, rather than "real soon now". Converting the kext was already on my list, but not the whole app! Is there a way we can have the ioctl code handled, and let us deal with the parameters?? Even a new ioctl, so that there aren't compatibility issues with existing apps? One of the challenges here is that on Intel, your kext is running little endian. Your user space process is running in big endian in Rosetta. For many common ioctls, there is code, I believe in Rosetta, to translate the ioctl code itself as well as parameters from big endian to little endian. The CTLIOGINFO ioctl for the SYSPROTO_CONTROL protocol is not supported. Were it supported, the kext would have to determine the byte order of the client since the kernel can not know the format of data passed between the user space process and the kext. In addition to making your kext a universal binary, you also need to make the client that talks to your kext a universal binary. Is communication from allowed from an app running in Rosetta to an intel NKE? I have a fat NKE installed. I seem to be able to communicate to it to some extent when my app is running under intel, but when my app runs under PPC I get an exeception. /* open socket to NKE*/ if( (sock = socket(PF_SYSTEM, SOCK_STREAM, SYSPROTO_CONTROL)) == -1) RETERR(kPGPError_ResourceUnavailable); and when making the ioctl, my app dies with SIGILL "Unhandled transform (1) for ioctl group = 78 (N), number = 3, length = 100" Vinnie Moscaritolo ITCB- IMSH PGP: 3F903472C3AF622D5D918D9BD8B100090B3EF042 ------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-kernel mailing list (Darwin-kernel(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-kernel/jgraessley% 40apple.com This email sent to jgraessley(a)apple.com _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-kernel mailing list (Darwin-kernel(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-kernel/vpndev% 40mac.com This email sent to vpndev(a)mac.com _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-kernel mailing list (Darwin-kernel(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-kernel/agentm% 40themactionfaction.com This email sent to agentm(a)themactionfaction.com This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: cross Arch communication to NKE?
by Josh Graessley 27 Jan '06

27 Jan '06

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-kernel(a)lists.apple.com I would recommend filing a bug report and contacting DTS. -josh On Jan 26, 2006, at 7:42 PM, Peter Lovell wrote: Regards.....Peter On Jan 26, 2006, at 6:52 PM, Josh Graessley wrote: No. -josh On Jan 26, 2006, at 3:26 PM, Vinnie Moscaritolo wrote: Specifically I do the following: #define MY_NKE_KEXT_NAME "com.me.kext.mynke" struct ctl_info ctl_info; int sock; /* open socket to NKE*/ if( (sock = socket(PF_SYSTEM, SOCK_STREAM, SYSPROTO_CONTROL)) == -1) RETERR(kPGPError_ResourceUnavailable); /* get NKE ID */ bzero(&ctl_info, sizeof(struct ctl_info)); strcpy(ctl_info.ctl_name, MY_NKE_KEXT_NAME); if (ioctl(sock, CTLIOCGINFO, &ctl_info) == -1) RETERR(kPGPError_FeatureNotAvailable); what does this mean? -- _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-kernel mailing list (Darwin-kernel(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-kernel/vpndev%40mac.com _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-kernel mailing list (Darwin-kernel(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-kernel/site_archiver%40lists.… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com I would guess that this is unlikely this unlikely to be fixed. Such a change would have to go in a software update. The content of software updates is strictly controlled. If the decision was made to incorporate such a change, it may take many months for it to get in to a software update. That makes the fix of dubious value. If it takes longer for the fix to get out than for the developer to transition their client to a universal binary, the fix was wasted effort. This is a really big deal. I have an app which will move only slowly to native, rather than "real soon now". Converting the kext was already on my list, but not the whole app! Is there a way we can have the ioctl code handled, and let us deal with the parameters?? Even a new ioctl, so that there aren't compatibility issues with existing apps? One of the challenges here is that on Intel, your kext is running little endian. Your user space process is running in big endian in Rosetta. For many common ioctls, there is code, I believe in Rosetta, to translate the ioctl code itself as well as parameters from big endian to little endian. The CTLIOGINFO ioctl for the SYSPROTO_CONTROL protocol is not supported. Were it supported, the kext would have to determine the byte order of the client since the kernel can not know the format of data passed between the user space process and the kext. In addition to making your kext a universal binary, you also need to make the client that talks to your kext a universal binary. Is communication from allowed from an app running in Rosetta to an intel NKE? I have a fat NKE installed. I seem to be able to communicate to it to some extent when my app is running under intel, but when my app runs under PPC I get an exeception. and when making the ioctl, my app dies with SIGILL "Unhandled transform (1) for ioctl group = 78 (N), number = 3, length = 100" Vinnie Moscaritolo ITCB- IMSH PGP: 3F903472C3AF622D5D918D9BD8B100090B3EF042 ------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-kernel mailing list (Darwin-kernel(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-kernel/jgraessley% 40apple.com This email sent to jgraessley(a)apple.com This email sent to vpndev(a)mac.com smime.p7s

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Re: KAuth and switching nodes
by Mike Smith 27 Jan '06

27 Jan '06

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KAuth and switching nodes
by David Allouch 27 Jan '06

27 Jan '06

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Re: cross Arch communication to NKE?
by Peter Lovell 27 Jan '06

27 Jan '06

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-kernel(a)lists.apple.com Regards.....Peter On Jan 26, 2006, at 6:52 PM, Josh Graessley wrote: No. -josh On Jan 26, 2006, at 3:26 PM, Vinnie Moscaritolo wrote: Specifically I do the following: #define MY_NKE_KEXT_NAME "com.me.kext.mynke" struct ctl_info ctl_info; int sock; /* open socket to NKE*/ if( (sock = socket(PF_SYSTEM, SOCK_STREAM, SYSPROTO_CONTROL)) == -1) RETERR(kPGPError_ResourceUnavailable); /* get NKE ID */ bzero(&ctl_info, sizeof(struct ctl_info)); strcpy(ctl_info.ctl_name, MY_NKE_KEXT_NAME); if (ioctl(sock, CTLIOCGINFO, &ctl_info) == -1) RETERR(kPGPError_FeatureNotAvailable); what does this mean? -- _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-kernel mailing list (Darwin-kernel(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-kernel/vpndev%40mac.com _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-kernel mailing list (Darwin-kernel(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-kernel/site_archiver%40lists.… This is a really big deal. I have an app which will move only slowly to native, rather than "real soon now". Converting the kext was already on my list, but not the whole app! Is there a way we can have the ioctl code handled, and let us deal with the parameters?? Even a new ioctl, so that there aren't compatibility issues with existing apps? One of the challenges here is that on Intel, your kext is running little endian. Your user space process is running in big endian in Rosetta. For many common ioctls, there is code, I believe in Rosetta, to translate the ioctl code itself as well as parameters from big endian to little endian. The CTLIOGINFO ioctl for the SYSPROTO_CONTROL protocol is not supported. Were it supported, the kext would have to determine the byte order of the client since the kernel can not know the format of data passed between the user space process and the kext. In addition to making your kext a universal binary, you also need to make the client that talks to your kext a universal binary. Is communication from allowed from an app running in Rosetta to an intel NKE? I have a fat NKE installed. I seem to be able to communicate to it to some extent when my app is running under intel, but when my app runs under PPC I get an exeception. and when making the ioctl, my app dies with SIGILL "Unhandled transform (1) for ioctl group = 78 (N), number = 3, length = 100" Vinnie Moscaritolo ITCB-IMSH PGP: 3F903472C3AF622D5D918D9BD8B100090B3EF042 ------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-kernel mailing list (Darwin-kernel(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-kernel/jgraessley% 40apple.com This email sent to jgraessley(a)apple.com This email sent to vpndev(a)mac.com This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: cross Arch communication to NKE?
by Josh Graessley 26 Jan '06

26 Jan '06

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-kernel(a)lists.apple.com No. -josh On Jan 26, 2006, at 3:26 PM, Vinnie Moscaritolo wrote: Specifically I do the following: #define MY_NKE_KEXT_NAME "com.me.kext.mynke" struct ctl_info ctl_info; int sock; /* open socket to NKE*/ if( (sock = socket(PF_SYSTEM, SOCK_STREAM, SYSPROTO_CONTROL)) == -1) RETERR(kPGPError_ResourceUnavailable); /* get NKE ID */ bzero(&ctl_info, sizeof(struct ctl_info)); strcpy(ctl_info.ctl_name, MY_NKE_KEXT_NAME); if (ioctl(sock, CTLIOCGINFO, &ctl_info) == -1) RETERR(kPGPError_FeatureNotAvailable); what does this mean? -- _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-kernel mailing list (Darwin-kernel(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-kernel/site_archiver%40lists.… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com One of the challenges here is that on Intel, your kext is running little endian. Your user space process is running in big endian in Rosetta. For many common ioctls, there is code, I believe in Rosetta, to translate the ioctl code itself as well as parameters from big endian to little endian. The CTLIOGINFO ioctl for the SYSPROTO_CONTROL protocol is not supported. Were it supported, the kext would have to determine the byte order of the client since the kernel can not know the format of data passed between the user space process and the kext. In addition to making your kext a universal binary, you also need to make the client that talks to your kext a universal binary. Is communication from allowed from an app running in Rosetta to an intel NKE? I have a fat NKE installed. I seem to be able to communicate to it to some extent when my app is running under intel, but when my app runs under PPC I get an exeception. and when making the ioctl, my app dies with SIGILL "Unhandled transform (1) for ioctl group = 78 (N), number = 3, length = 100" Vinnie Moscaritolo ITCB-IMSH PGP: 3F903472C3AF622D5D918D9BD8B100090B3EF042 ------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-kernel mailing list (Darwin-kernel(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-kernel/jgraessley% 40apple.com This email sent to jgraessley(a)apple.com smime.p7s

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cross Arch communication to NKE?
by Vinnie Moscaritolo 26 Jan '06

26 Jan '06

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-kernel(a)lists.apple.com Is communication from allowed from an app running in Rosetta to an intel NKE? I have a fat NKE installed. I seem to be able to communicate to it to some extent when my app is running under intel, but when my app runs under PPC I get an exeception. Specifically I do the following: #define MY_NKE_KEXT_NAME "com.me.kext.mynke" struct ctl_info ctl_info; int sock; /* open socket to NKE*/ if( (sock = socket(PF_SYSTEM, SOCK_STREAM, SYSPROTO_CONTROL)) == -1) RETERR(kPGPError_ResourceUnavailable); /* get NKE ID */ bzero(&ctl_info, sizeof(struct ctl_info)); strcpy(ctl_info.ctl_name, MY_NKE_KEXT_NAME); if (ioctl(sock, CTLIOCGINFO, &ctl_info) == -1) RETERR(kPGPError_FeatureNotAvailable); and when making the ioctl, my app dies with SIGILL "Unhandled transform (1) for ioctl group = 78 (N), number = 3, length = 100" what does this mean? -- Vinnie Moscaritolo ITCB-IMSH PGP: 3F903472C3AF622D5D918D9BD8B100090B3EF042 ------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-kernel mailing list (Darwin-kernel(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-kernel/site_archiver%40lists.… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: SE darwin?
by Todd Miller 23 Jan '06

23 Jan '06

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-kernel(a)lists.apple.com On Jan 23, 2006, at 9:52 AM, Segura, John A. wrote: Some information is available at: http://opensource.sparta.com/sedarwin/index.html The current release is available from: http://www.trustedbsd.org/sedarwin.html - todd _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-kernel mailing list (Darwin-kernel(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-kernel/site_archiver%40lists.… Hello, I'm looking for some information on SE Darwin. I've found stosdarwin.org, but it appears terribly out of date. Is this a defunct project? Where can I get some more information/how-to on this project? Work is ongoing on the SEDarwin project. There hasn't been much activity wrt STOS; current development is being done on the FreeBSD perforce server by members of SPARTA, Inc and the FreeBSD project. Two releases are upcoming: a Panther release containing updated SEDarwin components (FLASK from SELinux) and a new MAC framework release based on Tiger. Currently, we are using the TrustedBSD mailing lists for SEDarwin, not the the STOS list. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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SE darwin?
by Segura, John A. 23 Jan '06

23 Jan '06

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Re: Downloading Darwin Sources
by Herb Petschauer 22 Jan '06

22 Jan '06

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-kernel(a)lists.apple.com Domainkey-signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=kul7rbuOUAm39CcqvImKb2J5/OfVBOTNp06btR7YhJbsnloEr4JHYgFF+aqlT5EmDYwsjTIC7LelazO94FgRrKlCuwuu6kP3bPYyMQjAuvnXK9fzerDrRO65IXlZdrgcHBc7tw2ZdW/l0YKICrAFnLNCesNE8TSTIeP0ktfk30Q= Hunt around http://darwinsource.opendarwin.org/, I usually rsync the project from there... -H. On 1/21/06, OL&L Lists <lists(a)orbitallaunch.com> wrote: > Is there any way to download the entire Darwin sources in one CD > image or one archive rather than downloading each project? > > I need to search the entire Darwin source base for some strings and > don't want to have to click each link just to get the whole thing. > > Thanks, > > James > _______________________________________________ > Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. > Darwin-kernel mailing list (Darwin-kernel(a)lists.apple.com) > Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: > http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-kernel/bogvardi%40gmail.com > > This email sent to bogvardi(a)gmail.com > _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-kernel mailing list (Darwin-kernel(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-kernel/site_archiver%40lists.… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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