November 2007 - Darwin-kernel

Re: Getting PID of a unix domain socket client
by Michael Smith 30 Nov '07

30 Nov '07

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-kernel(a)lists.apple.com On Nov 28, 2007, at 8:36 AM, Terry Lambert wrote: = Mike _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-kernel mailing list (Darwin-kernel(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-kernel/site_archiver%40lists.… If you were intending to make security decisions, that's probaly not useful, since you can't trust the other end to be who they say they are, based on the PID: it's not a security identifier. Actually, this is what the assume credential by PID interface was for, but it requires a privileged process to use (for obvious reasons). This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Kext Dependency not found in Leopard 10.5 ( Intel Mac Mini )
by Shantonu Sen 30 Nov '07

30 Nov '07

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-kernel(a)lists.apple.com Shantonu Sent from my MacBook On Nov 29, 2007, at 7:12 PM, JanakiRam wrote: Hi All, I've specified the decencies in my kext info.plist as <key>OSBundleLibraries</key> <dict> <key>com.apple.kpi.bsd</key> <string>9.0.0 </string> <key>com.apple.kpi.libkern</key> <string>9.0.0</string> <key>com.apple.kpi.mach</key> <string>9.0.0</string> <key>com.apple.kpi.iokit</key> <string>9.0.0</string> </dict> My PPC machine has the dependent kexts with the same(9.0.0) version. Thanks in Advance. -JanakiRam. _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-kernel mailing list (Darwin-kernel(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-kernel/ssen%40apple.com _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-kernel mailing list (Darwin-kernel(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-kernel/site_archiver%40lists.… For your "com.apple.kpi.bsd" entry, you have a space after "9.0.0". I can't tell if this is a copy-paste error, or the real plist. If so, please make sure you don't have excessive spaces. I've a generic kext which is running properly on PPC Leopard 10.5 but failed to run on Intel Mac Mini Leopard 10.5 . It reported the following in Log on Intel one. admins-mac-mini:tmp janakiram$ sudo kextload -v -t fp_9.kext kextload: resolving dependencies for kernel extensions with validation and authentication failures kernel extension myDriver.kext has problems: Missing dependencies: { "com.apple.kpi.bsd" = "A valid compatible version of this dependency cannot be found" "com.apple.kpi.mach" = "A valid compatible version of this dependency cannot be found" "com.apple.kpi.iokit" = "A valid compatible version of this dependency cannot be found" "com.apple.kpi.libkern" = "A valid compatible version of this dependency cannot be found" } But when i see the dependency kext version on Intel Machine --> it showed me of the version number (9.0.0b4). Can any one suggest/provide pointers to resolve my kext loading problem. This email sent to ssen(a)apple.com This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Kext Dependency not found in Leopard 10.5 ( Intel Mac Mini )
by JanakiRam 30 Nov '07

30 Nov '07

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Re: Newbie Questions
by Chuck Remes 29 Nov '07

29 Nov '07

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-kernel(a)lists.apple.com On Nov 29, 2007, at 3:38 PM, Thomas Inskip wrote: This is probably the best you'll be able to do. Excellent book. Best reference outside of reading the source code. cr _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-kernel mailing list (Darwin-kernel(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-kernel/site_archiver%40lists.… I am not completely new to the darwin underpinnings, but I have been assigned a task that definitely requires pretty good knowledge of the mach kernel. First I'd like to ask what's a good introduction to the kernel (let's call it a crash course). Next I'd like to explain what I need to be able to do. I basically need to be able to detect when someone is reading from a shared resource (in this case the display buffer). For what I understand, any such resources are arbitrated through mach ports. If a process needs access to one, it obtains either read or write rights to it (multiple reader, single writer?), and then is able to access the resource. Is this correct? If so, I should be able to determine when someone obtains read access to such a port via the kernel trace facility or something similar. At least that's my idea. Perhaps I am wayyyyyyy off. Feel free to let me know if that's so or if I am oversimplifying things. http://www.amazon.com/Mac-OS-Internals-Systems-Approach/dp/0321278542/ ref=pd_bbs_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1196374596&sr=8-1 This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Newbie Questions
by Thomas Inskip 29 Nov '07

29 Nov '07

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Re: Getting PID of a unix domain socket client
by mm w 29 Nov '07

29 Nov '07

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-kernel(a)lists.apple.com Dkim-signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=geOexK1jc4heeX6bBTR47SV6Lh8ka+3ewuMAdDxBj68=; b=XHtveTIQEoqhi6G9t9LWDxhO7zPYW/t5khqakTB0Z9BjGvTdUNae45RRSqtzo7SZPmBmRgDpDauxobRYpszT3MDZkD0OYF6KoPnUOmYbabN909+Ie33jiAQ47CCwCKAlmQcyvUmjl9N3puzLf0MEi4j3tb78fM2xFRcG1sr63nE= Domainkey-signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Ck1cqt5A+jYnKGLZ0cqZ0/2WVcxT/l/aYew9UB6OTO4el0XRshXno3hGeG2RApqZTyaDFgD1dpSlwBvxSPjs85YvCZVlJMIlZ85LPUcdRqhep6URb54e11l4RsADYNxbUeIZ45prYrZ9dv2kS7L+T1QjhCbfXWncQ+32wnT1h20= Hi, there is no facilities like getpeerucred on solaris, in fact it depends on what you want to do with the pid information, if it's to check, you can compare the effective and real id if it's to kill, you can create your own socket container(struct, for an example like ucred), obtain a process (fork), fill your container(struct) -mmw On Nov 29, 2007 5:14 AM, Murali J <jmuralinux(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi all, > Thanks for your responses. I have tried getsockopt in linux > and succeeded. > But in MAC OS I had to try getpeereid() or getsockopt() with socket level as > SOL_SOCKET and LOCAL_PEERCRED which returned only euid and egid. > > I too thought to send the pid from the other end but as > Lambert said its not safe. > Since security is also my concern here. I ignored that also. I had tried to > use kernel level APIs defined in sys/kauth.h. That also will give only gid > and uid and etc. > > Since Linux has this option to know the pid from the socket > descriptor, I want to know is there any other options in MAC to do the > same.Till now I din't find any way to do that. > > Anyway thanks for ur responses. > > Best Regards, > Murali J. > > > > > > > On 11/28/07, mm w <openspecies(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi, i ve suggested to Murali to use getpeereid : euid, egid > > the effective UID and GID can be used to verify the privileges > > but maybe incomplete, especially for the fs checks. > > > > -mmw > > > > On Nov 28, 2007 8:36 AM, Terry Lambert <tlambert(a)apple.com> wrote: > > > On Nov 27, 2007, at 9:38 PM, Murali J < jmuralinux(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > > > I am writing a simple client server program using Unix > > > > domain sockets. > > > > Client sends some 10 bytes to the server and the server responses > > > > with another 10 bytes. > > > > > > > > Is there any way I can get the PID of the client which sends > > > > the request to the server?!? > > > > > > > > In linux, I am able to do this by using getsockopt(). But in > > > > MAC OS X, I am able to get only GID and UID of the client. I am > > > > running Darwin Kernal 8.6.0. > > > > > > Were you intending to use the PID as a simple client identifier, or > > > were you intending to make security inferences based on it? > > > > > > If as an identifier, you could just send the information in-band as > > > the first thing in the data stream. > > > > > > If you were intending to make security decisions, that's probaly not > > > useful, since you can't trust the other end to be who they say they > > > are, based on the PID: it's not a security identifier. > > > > > > -- Terry > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. > > > Darwin-kernel mailing list (Darwin-kernel(a)lists.apple.com) > > > Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: > > > > http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-kernel/openspecies%40gmail.com > > > > > > This email sent to openspecies(a)gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > echo zapydapntpd.rxltw@nzx | tr a-z@. p-za-o.@ > > > > -- echo zapydapntpd.rxltw@nzx | tr a-z@. p-za-o.@ _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-kernel mailing list (Darwin-kernel(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-kernel/site_archiver%40lists.… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Getting PID of a unix domain socket client
by Murali J 29 Nov '07

29 Nov '07

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Re: UDF driver location?
by Paul Wagland 28 Nov '07

28 Nov '07

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-kernel(a)lists.apple.com User-agent: Mutt/1.5.17 (2007-11-01) Well, as already mentioned in my e-mail, I have sent mail to product-security(a)apple.com, however, following your advice, I have also created Bug ID# 5618104 Cheers, Paul On Wed, Nov 28, 2007 at 09:47:34PM +0100, Alexander von Below wrote: > The best way to make that happen is to file a bug report at > bugreport.apple.com > > Alex > > Am 28.11.2007 um 21:46 schrieb Paul Wagland: > >> No Problems... >> >> Hopefully someone from Apple looks at this thread and decides to look at >> the code themselves... since I know for a fact that there is something >> seriously wrong there ;-) >> >> Mvg, >> Paul, >> >> On Wed, Nov 28, 2007 at 08:22:36AM -0800, mm w wrote: >>> Anyone is better :), sorry it's the morning and i'm driking a coffee >>> >>> @+ >>> >>> -mmw >>> >>> On Nov 28, 2007 8:19 AM, mm w <openspecies(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> Hi Paul, i m not speaking for someone, >>>> I only gave you the information, the code is not open-source. >>>> >>>> Best Regards, >>>> >>>> -mmw >>>> >>>> >>>> On Nov 28, 2007 2:38 AM, Paul Wagland <pwapple(a)kungfoocoder.org> wrote: >>>>> Hi mmw, >>>>> >>>>> Not sure if you are speaking for Apple or not here... >>>>> >>>>> But yes, I know that the specs are available, the reason that I was >>>>> originally looking for the UDF driver was to find the mac crasher that >>>>> I know exists there. I had a UDF formatted DVD that was able to >>>>> reliably >>>>> crash both of the intel macs that I have. Now, the disc was broken, in >>>>> that windows also could not read the disc, however windows didn't >>>>> crash, >>>>> requiring me to "press the power button for several seconds" >>>>> >>>>> I have submitted a report to product-security(a)apple.com, and I have >>>>> sent >>>>> in the traces from when the machine crashed. But I was hoping to be >>>>> able >>>>> to find a way to reproduce the problem so that I could attach that to >>>>> the bug report. Unfortunately, the DVD in question was destroyed, so I >>>>> cannot use that to start my work :-\ >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Paul >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Nov 27, 2007 at 11:47:37AM -0800, mm w wrote: >>>>>> Hi, sure since a long time ago; UDF standard is available. >>>>>> >>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Disk_Format >>>>>> >>>>>> there is no UDF driver, UDF at macosx level is a VFS plugin/bundle >>>>>> >>>>>> http://developer.apple.com/qa/qa2001/qa1242.html >>>>>> >>>>>> see also, KPI, macfuse >>>>>> >>>>>> -mmw >>>>>> >>>>>> On Nov 27, 2007 10:56 AM, Alexander von Below <below(a)mac.com> wrote: >>>>>>> I can not tell you anything about the UDF driver in Darwin, but the >>>>>>> standards for UDF are available online >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Alex >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Am 27.11.2007 um 00:18 schrieb Paul Wagland: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Quick question. I have downloaded the xnu source from >>>>>>>> http://www.opensource.apple.com/darwinsource/10.5/, but it does not >>>>>>>> appear to include the UDF driver. It does include the iso 9660 >>>>>>>> driver, >>>>>>>> but I am most interested in the UDF driver. Does anyone know which >>>>>>>> package this might be in? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks in advance for any help that can be offered, >>>>>>>> Paul >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >>>>>>>> Darwin-kernel mailing list (Darwin-kernel(a)lists.apple.com) >>>>>>>> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >>>>>>>> http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-kernel/below%40mac.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> This email sent to below(a)mac.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >>>>>>> Darwin-kernel mailing list (Darwin-kernel(a)lists.apple.com) >>>>>>> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >>>>>>> http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-kernel/openspecies%40gmail.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This email sent to openspecies(a)gmail.com >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> echo zapydapntpd.rxltw@nzx | tr a-z@. p-za-o.@ >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> echo zapydapntpd.rxltw@nzx | tr a-z@. p-za-o.@ >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> echo zapydapntpd.rxltw@nzx | tr a-z@. p-za-o.@ >> > _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-kernel mailing list (Darwin-kernel(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-kernel/site_archiver%40lists.… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: UDF driver location?
by Alexander von Below 28 Nov '07

28 Nov '07

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-kernel(a)lists.apple.com Alex Am 28.11.2007 um 21:46 schrieb Paul Wagland: No Problems... Mvg, Paul, Anyone is better :), sorry it's the morning and i'm driking a coffee @+ -mmw Hi Paul, i m not speaking for someone, I only gave you the information, the code is not open-source. Best Regards, -mmw Hi mmw, Not sure if you are speaking for Apple or not here... Cheers, Paul Hi, sure since a long time ago; UDF standard is available. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Disk_Format there is no UDF driver, UDF at macosx level is a VFS plugin/bundle http://developer.apple.com/qa/qa2001/qa1242.html see also, KPI, macfuse -mmw Alex Am 27.11.2007 um 00:18 schrieb Paul Wagland: Hi all, Thanks in advance for any help that can be offered, Paul _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-kernel mailing list (Darwin-kernel(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-kernel/below%40mac.com _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-kernel mailing list (Darwin-kernel(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-kernel/openspecies%40gmail.com This email sent to openspecies(a)gmail.com -- echo zapydapntpd.rxltw@nzx | tr a-z@. p-za-o.@ -- echo zapydapntpd.rxltw@nzx | tr a-z@. p-za-o.@ -- echo zapydapntpd.rxltw@nzx | tr a-z@. p-za-o.@ _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-kernel mailing list (Darwin-kernel(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-kernel/site_archiver%40lists.… The best way to make that happen is to file a bug report at bugreport.apple.com Hopefully someone from Apple looks at this thread and decides to look at the code themselves... since I know for a fact that there is something seriously wrong there ;-) On Wed, Nov 28, 2007 at 08:22:36AM -0800, mm w wrote: On Nov 28, 2007 8:19 AM, mm w <openspecies(a)gmail.com> wrote: On Nov 28, 2007 2:38 AM, Paul Wagland <pwapple(a)kungfoocoder.org> wrote: But yes, I know that the specs are available, the reason that I was originally looking for the UDF driver was to find the mac crasher that I know exists there. I had a UDF formatted DVD that was able to reliably crash both of the intel macs that I have. Now, the disc was broken, in that windows also could not read the disc, however windows didn't crash, requiring me to "press the power button for several seconds" I have submitted a report to product-security(a)apple.com, and I have sent in the traces from when the machine crashed. But I was hoping to be able to find a way to reproduce the problem so that I could attach that to the bug report. Unfortunately, the DVD in question was destroyed, so I cannot use that to start my work :-\ On Tue, Nov 27, 2007 at 11:47:37AM -0800, mm w wrote: On Nov 27, 2007 10:56 AM, Alexander von Below <below(a)mac.com> wrote: I can not tell you anything about the UDF driver in Darwin, but the standards for UDF are available online Quick question. I have downloaded the xnu source from http://www.opensource.apple.com/darwinsource/10.5/, but it does not appear to include the UDF driver. It does include the iso 9660 driver, but I am most interested in the UDF driver. Does anyone know which package this might be in? This email sent to below(a)mac.com This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: UDF driver location?
by Paul Wagland 28 Nov '07

28 Nov '07

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-kernel(a)lists.apple.com User-agent: Mutt/1.5.17 (2007-11-01) No Problems... Hopefully someone from Apple looks at this thread and decides to look at the code themselves... since I know for a fact that there is something seriously wrong there ;-) Mvg, Paul, On Wed, Nov 28, 2007 at 08:22:36AM -0800, mm w wrote: > Anyone is better :), sorry it's the morning and i'm driking a coffee > > @+ > > -mmw > > On Nov 28, 2007 8:19 AM, mm w <openspecies(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi Paul, i m not speaking for someone, > > I only gave you the information, the code is not open-source. > > > > Best Regards, > > > > -mmw > > > > > > On Nov 28, 2007 2:38 AM, Paul Wagland <pwapple(a)kungfoocoder.org> wrote: > > > Hi mmw, > > > > > > Not sure if you are speaking for Apple or not here... > > > > > > But yes, I know that the specs are available, the reason that I was > > > originally looking for the UDF driver was to find the mac crasher that > > > I know exists there. I had a UDF formatted DVD that was able to reliably > > > crash both of the intel macs that I have. Now, the disc was broken, in > > > that windows also could not read the disc, however windows didn't crash, > > > requiring me to "press the power button for several seconds" > > > > > > I have submitted a report to product-security(a)apple.com, and I have sent > > > in the traces from when the machine crashed. But I was hoping to be able > > > to find a way to reproduce the problem so that I could attach that to > > > the bug report. Unfortunately, the DVD in question was destroyed, so I > > > cannot use that to start my work :-\ > > > > > > Cheers, > > > Paul > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 27, 2007 at 11:47:37AM -0800, mm w wrote: > > > > Hi, sure since a long time ago; UDF standard is available. > > > > > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Disk_Format > > > > > > > > there is no UDF driver, UDF at macosx level is a VFS plugin/bundle > > > > > > > > http://developer.apple.com/qa/qa2001/qa1242.html > > > > > > > > see also, KPI, macfuse > > > > > > > > -mmw > > > > > > > > On Nov 27, 2007 10:56 AM, Alexander von Below <below(a)mac.com> wrote: > > > > > I can not tell you anything about the UDF driver in Darwin, but the > > > > > standards for UDF are available online > > > > > > > > > > Alex > > > > > > > > > > Am 27.11.2007 um 00:18 schrieb Paul Wagland: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > > > > > Quick question. I have downloaded the xnu source from > > > > > > http://www.opensource.apple.com/darwinsource/10.5/, but it does not > > > > > > appear to include the UDF driver. It does include the iso 9660 driver, > > > > > > but I am most interested in the UDF driver. Does anyone know which > > > > > > package this might be in? > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance for any help that can be offered, > > > > > > Paul > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. > > > > > > Darwin-kernel mailing list (Darwin-kernel(a)lists.apple.com) > > > > > > Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: > > > > > > http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-kernel/below%40mac.com > > > > > > > > > > > > This email sent to below(a)mac.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. > > > > > Darwin-kernel mailing list (Darwin-kernel(a)lists.apple.com) > > > > > Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: > > > > > http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-kernel/openspecies%40gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > This email sent to openspecies(a)gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > echo zapydapntpd.rxltw@nzx | tr a-z@. p-za-o.@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > echo zapydapntpd.rxltw@nzx | tr a-z@. p-za-o.@ > > > > > > -- > echo zapydapntpd.rxltw@nzx | tr a-z@. p-za-o.@ _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-kernel mailing list (Darwin-kernel(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-kernel/site_archiver%40lists.… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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