What exactly are you trying to do? You should be able to do most anything you can do in pf with ipfw. pf's advantage over ipfw (in my mind, anyways) is that the rules syntax is quite a bit cleaner, pf is a little faster, and it has a few leading edge features (like rules based on OS fingerprinting, etc). Although I can truly sympathize with your plights, I'm not sure that Justin is the one you should be venting to. Who that is at Apple, I'm not sure, but. ~ per On Thu, 08 Jul 2004 12:45:57 -0700, OpenMacNews <darwin-kernel.20.openmacnews@spamgourmet.com> wrote:
i *am* a customer. direct/indirect purchasing control of ~2200 machines, including ~ 200 Macs.
i've had LENGTHY, repeated discussion about THIS issue with apple numerous times. sales, support, etc, etc.
nothing for ~ two years.
given that response, which is wholly within apple's right to choose/control ...
there's a really clean solution for *us*. we won't use the macs for anything that requires enterprise-class firewall/gateway functionality. and mention your sparkling attitude every time our apple sales person calls ...
duh.
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