site_archiver@lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-kernel@lists.apple.com Mike, no offense meant. But you could tell me something I can't read already off Apple's own marketing panflets. I thought this was a technical list. It is. Stop with the grandstanding and condescension already. All I asked here was information about accessing otherwise crippled interfaces which are available by default to FreeBSD kernel modules. Since the code base is essentially the same, except for some minimal changes and glue code, I would expect some of the interfaces to be available. Anyway, let's take the discussion back to technical grounds, please. I neither have time nor interest on going on the marketing or political mumbo jumbo. If there's a mailing list sponsored by Apple explicitly for that purpose, I will subscribe to it when I need to discuss those matters. --Amanda _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-kernel mailing list (Darwin-kernel@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-kernel/site_archiver%40lists.a... On Dec 15, 2008, at 12:21 AM, John D. wrote: Darwin is not FreeBSD. It provides a different set of interfaces to kernel modules. That expectation is wrong. The code base is *not* essentially the same, though they do share some code (and more often, share similar code with a common ancestry). Saying "you should not expect Darwin to work like FreeBSD" is not political mumbo jumbo. It is the technical answer to your question. "But it should" is a political objection, which *you* raised. If you want to develop for FreeBSD, please do! But don't come waltzing in to darwin-kernel complaining that Darwin works differently. It's a different operating system, despite some family resemblances. This email sent to site_archiver@lists.apple.com