On Saturday, Apr 5, 2003, at 18:01 US/Pacific, Jean-Edouard BABIN wrote: Justin Walker icrit: thanks for your information The existence of a zombie is not that strange; it's unusual, but not unheard of. This could be a bug. You can file a report (<http://bugreport.apple.com>) or try to reproduce it and then file a report. yes i will do this. You can determine the parent process's id by something like "ps -oppid -aux", and the first column of the output will contain the process's parent's pid. PPID is 0 ;) with you command i have just see that i also have 0 root 8000 0.0 0.0 0 0 con- Z 1Jan70 0:00.00 (X11) (i have used X11 today) i will try to find why this append, but i think it will be quite difficult Why it happens is not that difficult: here, the X11.app process exited, but the parent (Finder, in all likelihood) did not "wait(2)" for it. For X11, it is a known bug. Your earlier case (iTunes) may be the same problem, but it is worth filing a bug so that Apple can track the problem. In any case, the occurrence of a Zombie process is a problem for the parent process, not for the Zombie process. Regards, Justin -- Justin C. Walker, Curmudgeon-At-Large * Institute for General Semantics | It's not whether you win or lose... | It's whether *I* win or lose. *--------------------------------------*-------------------------------* _______________________________________________ darwin-kernel mailing list | darwin-kernel@lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Archives: http://www.lists.apple.com/mailman/listinfo/darwin-kernel Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored.