Hi all, I joined this list mostly to observe and learn a little without getting in the way, but I thought I'd offer an idea I have been thinking about. Apple has done a great job of hiding the CLI from the average user, while leaving access for the advanced users in place. Further, I think it's great that Apple asks users to report information generated during a panic, but should they need to read a KBase article to realize that? If I'm a user who's never heard of a kernel panic and I suddenly get thrown out of my warm and fuzzy Aqua and into some strange text dump, I'm probably not going to consider writing down what appears on the screen. "We're hanging here..." is enough for a developer or advanced user to know what's going on and the correct procedure, but why not offer an explanation and directions for the general user? I'm not a kernel hacker, but it looks like you could just add a printf and something along the lines of the following: "Mac OS X has crashed and the system must be restarted. Please record the entire text that was generated on the screen to aid Apple in investigating the cause of this error. For information on how to report a kernel panic, please visit http://www.apple.com/support/." or something akin to that. Panics are extremely rare under OS X (for most people anyway), but I believe including a simple message to the user, such as the above, would greatly increase the likelihood that people would report them when they do occur. - George