great to hear! it'll make gateway migration to OSX from *BSD (e.g.) a bit less painful ... can you comment re: whether as built-in the kernel, or as an extension? the former (maybe?) probably has some performance advantages, but the latter could allow for the inclusion/addition of "pf" as well. i've read strong arguments on the lists for both pkgs ... thx, richard We are aware that the firewall is falling behind. We are looking at ipfw2. -josh On Apr 5, 2004, at 8:43 AM, OpenMacNews wrote: hi, can anyone provide any insight as to if/when Darwin will update its currently integrated firewall, ipfw, to a 'current' version/product --- say ipfw2, pf, etc.? or, is there an existing non-kernel port of any of them? FreeBSD has available both kernel builds and ports, but i've found nothing for OSX ... thanks, richard _______________________________________________ darwin-kernel mailing list | darwin-kernel@lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Archives: http://www.lists.apple.com/mailman/listinfo/darwin-kernel Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored.