December 2005 - Installer-dev

how to avoid overwriting files during installation
by Patrick Litterst 22 Dec '05

22 Dec '05

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com I've created a .mpkg installer using PackageMaker that contains two packages: one package contains an application that gets installed in the Applications folder, and the other package contains files that get installed elsewhere on the computer. If the user reinstalls the application using the .mpkg installer, the files (which the user may have modified prior to reinstallation) will be overridden. How can I prevent these files from getting overridden during reinstallation of the software? _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Reading and writing PMSP file
by Stéphane Sudre 21 Dec '05

21 Dec '05

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com On mercredi, décembre 21, 2005, at 06:20 PM, Andy Cedilnik wrote: Hi, So, please let me know if you have any more information. _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… I am trying to read and write the PMSP file produced by PackageMaker. Looking into it, you can see it is a binary file and somewhere close to the beginning is a string: typedstream. I found some information about typedstream, but the most promising is the code in GNU Objective C. That said, before I go and rip a bunch of code out of gcc, is there any simple explanation on the PMSP file format? I figured out all strings have length prepended, but there is much more that is > changing. Also, (question for the apple guys) is there a problem with reverse engineering pmsp file? Will it change anytime soon? While your best solution is to go with the command line tool, some notes: There are already 2 versions of PackageMaker files. One using Archiving, the other using Key Archiving. The most recent one is not very difficult to read even though the keys have been strangely chosen considering that there were nice string constants for these in the Info.plist file for instance. The Key-Archiving version is being extended between releases of Package Maker. For instance, the latest version introduced support for Requirements and Token Definitions AFAIK. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Reading and writing PMSP file
by Andy Cedilnik 21 Dec '05

21 Dec '05

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com User-agent: Debian Thunderbird 1.0.7 (X11/20051017) Hi Luke, Excellent. I will check that. Thank you. Andy Luke Bellandi wrote: Hi Andy, Responses are in-line. On Dec 21, 2005, at 9:51 AM, Andy Cedilnik wrote: Hi Luke, Hope that helps. Best, Luke Thank you. Andy Luke Bellandi wrote: Hi Andy, Check out /Developer/Tools/packagemaker or "man packagemaker" Best, Luke On Dec 21, 2005, at 9:35 AM, Andy Cedilnik wrote: Hi Luke, Andy Luke Bellandi wrote: Hi Andy, What specifically are you trying to accomplish? - Luke On Dec 21, 2005, at 9:20 AM, Andy Cedilnik wrote: Hi, So, please let me know if you have any more information. Thank you. -- Andy Cedilnik Kitware Inc. -- Andy Cedilnik Kitware Inc. -- Andy Cedilnik Kitware Inc. _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… Ok, I guess I am missing something. On my mac the packagemaker is in /Developer/Applications/Utilities/PackageMaker.app. The man does not return anything, but that may be the version problem. On the mac mini, the packagemaker is where you said and the man works fine. You may have different versions of the Mac OS X Developer Tools installed. Try upgrading the developer tools on your Mac. Go to http://developer.apple.com for the latest download. That said, the pmsp has tones of information inside. Where should that information come from? For example, there are all the TIFPkgFlag* and various versions and so on. Should that be in plist file? Can I have a sample of that file? These keys all come from an Info.plist file. Check out the Software Distribution documentation on the ADC site: http://developer.apple.com/documentation/DeveloperTools/Conceptual/ SoftwareDistribution/index.html The article "Examining and Modifying Property Lists" lists what keys you can use in your Info.plist file and what they do. The packagemaker command line tool can then use that XML as an ingredient to create your package. It's Apple's command line interface to packagemaker. It's probably better (and easier) for you to write scripts to interface with that than to try to match our .psmp format. Our package file format is not public (and therefore is subject to change), while our command line interface is public and will remain backwards compatible. I am trying to generate PMSP files. For example, I want to automate the process of creating releases without somebody having to run the GUI. I am trying to read and write the PMSP file produced by PackageMaker. Looking into it, you can see it is a binary file and somewhere close to the beginning is a string: typedstream. I found some information about typedstream, but the most promising is the code in GNU Objective C. That said, before I go and rip a bunch of code out of gcc, is there any simple explanation on the PMSP file format? I figured out all strings have length prepended, but there is much more that is changing. Also, (question for the apple guys) is there a problem with reverse engineering pmsp file? Will it change anytime soon? Andy _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/luke% 40apple.com This email sent to luke(a)apple.com This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Reading and writing PMSP file
by Luke Bellandi 21 Dec '05

21 Dec '05

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Hi Andy, Responses are in-line. On Dec 21, 2005, at 9:51 AM, Andy Cedilnik wrote: Hi Luke, Hope that helps. Best, Luke Thank you. Andy Luke Bellandi wrote: Hi Andy, Check out /Developer/Tools/packagemaker or "man packagemaker" Best, Luke On Dec 21, 2005, at 9:35 AM, Andy Cedilnik wrote: Hi Luke, Andy Luke Bellandi wrote: Hi Andy, What specifically are you trying to accomplish? - Luke On Dec 21, 2005, at 9:20 AM, Andy Cedilnik wrote: Hi, So, please let me know if you have any more information. Thank you. -- Andy Cedilnik Kitware Inc. -- Andy Cedilnik Kitware Inc. _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… Ok, I guess I am missing something. On my mac the packagemaker is in /Developer/Applications/Utilities/PackageMaker.app. The man does not return anything, but that may be the version problem. On the mac mini, the packagemaker is where you said and the man works fine. You may have different versions of the Mac OS X Developer Tools installed. Try upgrading the developer tools on your Mac. Go to http://developer.apple.com for the latest download. That said, the pmsp has tones of information inside. Where should that information come from? For example, there are all the TIFPkgFlag* and various versions and so on. Should that be in plist file? Can I have a sample of that file? These keys all come from an Info.plist file. Check out the Software Distribution documentation on the ADC site: http://developer.apple.com/documentation/DeveloperTools/Conceptual/ SoftwareDistribution/index.html The article "Examining and Modifying Property Lists" lists what keys you can use in your Info.plist file and what they do. The packagemaker command line tool can then use that XML as an ingredient to create your package. It's Apple's command line interface to packagemaker. It's probably better (and easier) for you to write scripts to interface with that than to try to match our .psmp format. Our package file format is not public (and therefore is subject to change), while our command line interface is public and will remain backwards compatible. I am trying to generate PMSP files. For example, I want to automate the process of creating releases without somebody having to run the GUI. I am trying to read and write the PMSP file produced by PackageMaker. Looking into it, you can see it is a binary file and somewhere close to the beginning is a string: typedstream. I found some information about typedstream, but the most promising is the code in GNU Objective C. That said, before I go and rip a bunch of code out of gcc, is there any simple explanation on the PMSP file format? I figured out all strings have length prepended, but there is much more that is changing. Also, (question for the apple guys) is there a problem with reverse engineering pmsp file? Will it change anytime soon? Andy _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/luke% 40apple.com This email sent to luke(a)apple.com This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Reading and writing PMSP file
by Andy Cedilnik 21 Dec '05

21 Dec '05

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com User-agent: Debian Thunderbird 1.0.7 (X11/20051017) Hi Luke, Thank you. Andy Luke Bellandi wrote: Hi Andy, Check out /Developer/Tools/packagemaker or "man packagemaker" Best, Luke On Dec 21, 2005, at 9:35 AM, Andy Cedilnik wrote: Hi Luke, Andy Luke Bellandi wrote: Hi Andy, What specifically are you trying to accomplish? - Luke On Dec 21, 2005, at 9:20 AM, Andy Cedilnik wrote: Hi, So, please let me know if you have any more information. Thank you. Andy _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/luke% 40apple.com -- Andy Cedilnik Kitware Inc. -- Andy Cedilnik Kitware Inc. _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… Ok, I guess I am missing something. On my mac the packagemaker is in /Developer/Applications/Utilities/PackageMaker.app. The man does not return anything, but that may be the version problem. On the mac mini, the packagemaker is where you said and the man works fine. That said, the pmsp has tones of information inside. Where should that information come from? For example, there are all the TIFPkgFlag* and various versions and so on. Should that be in plist file? Can I have a sample of that file? It's Apple's command line interface to packagemaker. It's probably better (and easier) for you to write scripts to interface with that than to try to match our .psmp format. Our package file format is not public (and therefore is subject to change), while our command line interface is public and will remain backwards compatible. I am trying to generate PMSP files. For example, I want to automate the process of creating releases without somebody having to run the GUI. I am trying to read and write the PMSP file produced by PackageMaker. Looking into it, you can see it is a binary file and somewhere close to the beginning is a string: typedstream. I found some information about typedstream, but the most promising is the code in GNU Objective C. That said, before I go and rip a bunch of code out of gcc, is there any simple explanation on the PMSP file format? I figured out all strings have length prepended, but there is much more that is changing. Also, (question for the apple guys) is there a problem with reverse engineering pmsp file? Will it change anytime soon? This email sent to luke(a)apple.com This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Reading and writing PMSP file
by Luke Bellandi 21 Dec '05

21 Dec '05

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Hi Andy, Check out /Developer/Tools/packagemaker or "man packagemaker" Best, Luke On Dec 21, 2005, at 9:35 AM, Andy Cedilnik wrote: Hi Luke, Andy Luke Bellandi wrote: Hi Andy, What specifically are you trying to accomplish? - Luke On Dec 21, 2005, at 9:20 AM, Andy Cedilnik wrote: Hi, So, please let me know if you have any more information. Thank you. -- Andy Cedilnik Kitware Inc. _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… It's Apple's command line interface to packagemaker. It's probably better (and easier) for you to write scripts to interface with that than to try to match our .psmp format. Our package file format is not public (and therefore is subject to change), while our command line interface is public and will remain backwards compatible. I am trying to generate PMSP files. For example, I want to automate the process of creating releases without somebody having to run the GUI. I am trying to read and write the PMSP file produced by PackageMaker. Looking into it, you can see it is a binary file and somewhere close to the beginning is a string: typedstream. I found some information about typedstream, but the most promising is the code in GNU Objective C. That said, before I go and rip a bunch of code out of gcc, is there any simple explanation on the PMSP file format? I figured out all strings have length prepended, but there is much more that is changing. Also, (question for the apple guys) is there a problem with reverse engineering pmsp file? Will it change anytime soon? Andy _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/luke% 40apple.com This email sent to luke(a)apple.com This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Reading and writing PMSP file
by Andy Cedilnik 21 Dec '05

21 Dec '05

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com User-agent: Debian Thunderbird 1.0.7 (X11/20051017) Hi Luke, Andy Luke Bellandi wrote: Hi Andy, What specifically are you trying to accomplish? - Luke On Dec 21, 2005, at 9:20 AM, Andy Cedilnik wrote: Hi, So, please let me know if you have any more information. Thank you. Andy _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/luke%40apple.com -- Andy Cedilnik Kitware Inc. _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… I am trying to generate PMSP files. For example, I want to automate the process of creating releases without somebody having to run the GUI. I am trying to read and write the PMSP file produced by PackageMaker. Looking into it, you can see it is a binary file and somewhere close to the beginning is a string: typedstream. I found some information about typedstream, but the most promising is the code in GNU Objective C. That said, before I go and rip a bunch of code out of gcc, is there any simple explanation on the PMSP file format? I figured out all strings have length prepended, but there is much more that is changing. Also, (question for the apple guys) is there a problem with reverse engineering pmsp file? Will it change anytime soon? This email sent to luke(a)apple.com This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Reading and writing PMSP file
by Luke Bellandi 21 Dec '05

21 Dec '05

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Hi Andy, What specifically are you trying to accomplish? - Luke On Dec 21, 2005, at 9:20 AM, Andy Cedilnik wrote: Hi, So, please let me know if you have any more information. Thank you. Andy _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/luke%40apple.com _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… I am trying to read and write the PMSP file produced by PackageMaker. Looking into it, you can see it is a binary file and somewhere close to the beginning is a string: typedstream. I found some information about typedstream, but the most promising is the code in GNU Objective C. That said, before I go and rip a bunch of code out of gcc, is there any simple explanation on the PMSP file format? I figured out all strings have length prepended, but there is much more that is changing. Also, (question for the apple guys) is there a problem with reverse engineering pmsp file? Will it change anytime soon? This email sent to luke(a)apple.com This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Reading and writing PMSP file
by Andy Cedilnik 21 Dec '05

21 Dec '05

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com User-agent: Debian Thunderbird 1.0.7 (X11/20051017) Hi, So, please let me know if you have any more information. Thank you. Andy _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… I am trying to read and write the PMSP file produced by PackageMaker. Looking into it, you can see it is a binary file and somewhere close to the beginning is a string: typedstream. I found some information about typedstream, but the most promising is the code in GNU Objective C. That said, before I go and rip a bunch of code out of gcc, is there any simple explanation on the PMSP file format? I figured out all strings have length prepended, but there is much more that is changing. Also, (question for the apple guys) is there a problem with reverse engineering pmsp file? Will it change anytime soon? This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Troubles doing a package for an application
by Stéphane Sudre 20 Dec '05

20 Dec '05

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… On mardi, décembre 20, 2005, at 09:13 AM, Asterio Rodrÿffffedguez wrote: Hi everyone, Well, i have not enough experience working in XCode, so i did a little app (a simple one), this one runs well on my computer, but when i try to do a package for to install it in other machine, then the app doesn't run. I did my test app in XCode using carbon (basicly a window with 2 Edit Text and 2 Buttons), but i don't know if the package contains the required files to run (i don't know if i must to add the .nib file and other resource files). Can someone give a hand ?. Thanks you in advance. Are you building the application in Deployment or development mode in XCode? This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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